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Originally posted by woobie View PostIf you read some of MoJoe's posts this is the exact method he uses when scooping up used bikes. Seems to work very well for him.
my method is simple.
1) always show up with the asking price in your pocket, just in case you want it bad enough to pay the asking price.
2) don't get "excited" when you see the bike...especially when looking at one at a dealership. experienced salesmen can see this, and they know darn well you will go higher. I mean this....don't even smile, cuz more often than not it is a big chit eating grin that just screams, "ooohhh, I like it". In fact, look disappointed and try to find EVERYTHING wrong with it that you can. Ask about maintenance such as valve adjustments and such. Ask to see service records for proof. If the dealer can't supply them, then they can not prove it was done. This can leave you room to work a "tune-up" into the deal, or take of some of the asking price to cover it.
2) pull out only the amount you are willing to start at. Don't be afraid to start too low. If they are asking $2k, I would start at $1500. pull out the $1500 and make the offer, saying that is all you can AFFORD...NOT all that you HAVE (you will look like an idiot if you say it is all you have, then pull out more). If he refuses the 1500 and makes a counter offer, make your counter to 1600. In this case, I would try to get the 2k bike out the door for a max of 1750, taxes included. for this particular bike, $1750 is about as high as I would go, and that is when you say, "sorry, it's ALL I have".
anything more than that for a 93 600, I would just walk away. it just isn't worth it. a few bucks more could get you better for a first bike.
In fact, I would not even pay that for a first bike. reason being that it is a fairly large investment considering you are new and have nothing to compare it to, yet. You might hate the katana.
I personally have gotten bikes at 1/3 the asking price cuz I mainly deal in older bikes that I only want for parts anyway. My best deal was snagging a bike with an asking price of $1200, for $450. I basically knew it would require quite a bit of work to get it back to "great" condition, and pointed it all out to the seller......then made my offer while telling him it is just not worth fixing up and good only for parts. he knows I am no BS'ing him when I tell him he can tear up the title if he wants.
I occasionally feel a bit guilty when I see the look of sadness on the sellers face when he realizes his "baby" of the last 5 years or so is going to the scrap heap.....but I get over it when I pull out of his driveway.Last edited by Mojoe; 03-12-2008, 01:00 PM.I don't have a short temper. I just have a quick reaction to bullshit.
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+1000 to Mojoe.
I've gotten a lot of good deals with 80% in one pocket and the other 20% in the other. Most people will go for the cold, hard, cash-in-hand. And it's true, so many people think that all the additional bolt-on mods they've done automatically makes that $4000 bike a $9000 speed demon:
"I have over $5000 in mods on this bike."
"Fine. Take them off and I'll give you four grand."sigpic
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I paid 2k out the door for my 1993 kat 600 with 18k miles on it. They put on a new clutch cable, new oil and filter, and lubed everything up. Get what you can most people really want to get rid of older bikes90% of motorcycle forum members do not have a service manual for their bike.
Originally posted by BadfaerieI love how the most ignorant people I have met are the ones that fling the word "ignorant" around like it's an insult, or poo. Maybe they think it means pooOriginally posted by soulless kaosbut personaly I dont see a point in a 1000 you can get the same power from a properly tuned 600 with less weight and better handeling.
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Originally posted by chinto View Postahh gotcha. If your contemplating resale reasons though an 88+ Kat probably isn't the best bet. They don't seem to do well on the used market.Jesus, family, me. Psalm 121 Red Pill Mille Clip ATGATT
'01 Aprilia RST 1000 Futura
'08 Aprilia RSV Factory
'11 Kawasaki KLR650
I bought my first Kat in 1991, brand new, a red 600. No pics though.
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Originally posted by Fox Fader View PostYeah cause a 97 and a 98 could in reality only be a few hundred dollars apart.
Originally posted by HexKrak View PostGot my 97 600 with 20k on it for 1k. All she needed was a carb tune up and a couple plastics, and frankly I'm not overly concerned with the farings on my first bike
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Originally posted by spartan985 View Postwell it sucks but the dealer sold it already.....
Where are you located?"Men will get no more out of life than they put into it."
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