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Hey guys, appreciate your assistance. Sorry for the long post.
Recently picked up an '02 600. LOVE IT. It runs *great*(once started).
It seems to have 2 non-related problems starting, always after an overnight sit in the garage:
1) Starts to energetically turn-over, then "seizes".
2) Choke doesn't work
Issue 1: Appears random. Starts to turn over, headlights appear bright, cranks with energy, then eerp! It "locks up". Not a slow die, but instantaneous. If I hit the starter button again, it remains locked up, like the engine is siezed. No clicking, but there is a starter noise as if it's going to turn it over but it doesn't. Sometimes, however, after pushing the button again it does crank over, rapidly, and leads to a start (but since issue 2 is vexxing, I have to start it sans choke and so it takes a lot of cranking, usually 4 or so 4-second runs). Often if I leave it sit for 10 minutes, it'll turn over again and sometimes start, sometimes re-seize. It does this whether it's in neutral or 1st with the clutch lever pulled. Randomness is that sometimes it cranks and doesn't seize. Most times it does.
I've tried to push start it, but it skids the tire rather than crank the engine (if I attempt after it abruptly stopped turning over).
I decided perhaps the battery was bad despite a 12v multimeter reading. Bought a new one and it cranked superbly for the first two startups, never seizing -- thought I had it solved until the third startup attempt, then seized. I rode for a long time after each prior startup to recharge the battery.
Note, once the bike is warm, even if it's sat for 30 min after a ride, it turns over great and always starts (with no choke).
(?) Perhaps there's some backpressure from the cylinders or the clutch that forces an abrupt stop?
(?) Perhaps the alternator is not recharging the battery and has led to battery #2 losing startup amps and there's no backpressure but rather the cold oil simply causes it to abruptly stop rather than slow crank?
(?) Or perhaps the starter motor is bad, but just good enough to turn it over sometimes?
Issue 2
Moving the choke lever, even slightly, causes my running bike to instantly stall, whether warm or just started cold. Moving the lever when attempting to start a cold bike causes it to not catch (assuming it's turning over, per issue 1). I can crank and crank and it doesn't fire.
Note, after sitting overnight the garage smells of evaporated gas. Not overwhelmingly, but the odor is present. I've looked around with fairings attached and cannot see leaks or liquid. There's no puddles below the bike, ever.
* Not mechanically inclined, but good at reading/following instructions. Would rather not pull gas tank & fairings unless I have to -- so if there's some further diagnostic I can do to narrow down, lemme know.
Recently picked up an '02 600. LOVE IT. It runs *great*(once started).
It seems to have 2 non-related problems starting, always after an overnight sit in the garage:
1) Starts to energetically turn-over, then "seizes".
2) Choke doesn't work
Issue 1: Appears random. Starts to turn over, headlights appear bright, cranks with energy, then eerp! It "locks up". Not a slow die, but instantaneous. If I hit the starter button again, it remains locked up, like the engine is siezed. No clicking, but there is a starter noise as if it's going to turn it over but it doesn't. Sometimes, however, after pushing the button again it does crank over, rapidly, and leads to a start (but since issue 2 is vexxing, I have to start it sans choke and so it takes a lot of cranking, usually 4 or so 4-second runs). Often if I leave it sit for 10 minutes, it'll turn over again and sometimes start, sometimes re-seize. It does this whether it's in neutral or 1st with the clutch lever pulled. Randomness is that sometimes it cranks and doesn't seize. Most times it does.
I've tried to push start it, but it skids the tire rather than crank the engine (if I attempt after it abruptly stopped turning over).
I decided perhaps the battery was bad despite a 12v multimeter reading. Bought a new one and it cranked superbly for the first two startups, never seizing -- thought I had it solved until the third startup attempt, then seized. I rode for a long time after each prior startup to recharge the battery.
Note, once the bike is warm, even if it's sat for 30 min after a ride, it turns over great and always starts (with no choke).
(?) Perhaps there's some backpressure from the cylinders or the clutch that forces an abrupt stop?
(?) Perhaps the alternator is not recharging the battery and has led to battery #2 losing startup amps and there's no backpressure but rather the cold oil simply causes it to abruptly stop rather than slow crank?
(?) Or perhaps the starter motor is bad, but just good enough to turn it over sometimes?
Issue 2
Moving the choke lever, even slightly, causes my running bike to instantly stall, whether warm or just started cold. Moving the lever when attempting to start a cold bike causes it to not catch (assuming it's turning over, per issue 1). I can crank and crank and it doesn't fire.
Note, after sitting overnight the garage smells of evaporated gas. Not overwhelmingly, but the odor is present. I've looked around with fairings attached and cannot see leaks or liquid. There's no puddles below the bike, ever.
* Not mechanically inclined, but good at reading/following instructions. Would rather not pull gas tank & fairings unless I have to -- so if there's some further diagnostic I can do to narrow down, lemme know.
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