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  • #16
    Originally posted by ctandc View Post
    I did some research on this...

    Suzuki lists the same part # for the front master cylinder rebuild kit for the 91 600 and the 06 600....
    Hmmm checked on this myself and they have two different master cylinders on the 91 600 as it depends on the model.

    59600-45850 J model which is the same as a 06 600
    59600-20c00 which is K,L.M.N models and is different than the 06 600.

    Maybe the guy that I sent my master cylinder to had the one with the different master cylinder.

    Tmod

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Tmod View Post
      Hmmm checked on this myself and they have two different master cylinders on the 91 600 as it depends on the model.

      59600-45850 J model which is the same as a 06 600
      59600-20c00 which is K,L.M.N models and is different than the 06 600.

      Maybe the guy that I sent my master cylinder to had the one with the different master cylinder.

      Tmod
      The Alpha designations (K,L,M etc) indicate the model year.

      I just verified this with my Factory (Suzuki) service manual.

      K = 88
      L = 89
      M = 90 etc etc

      In fact according to the Suzuki parts fische on RonAyers, it lists:

      59600-20C00 for for K-T which would translate as 88-97

      59600-20C10 is listed for 04-06 Kat 600

      And you are right, I stand corrected..the Suzuki fische lists

      59600-45860 for 88-97 Rebuild kit

      59600-45850 for 04-06 Kat 600 as well as 98-03

      I need to get the part# off my master cylinder I guess..
      Last edited by ctandc; 02-22-2009, 08:54 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ctandc View Post
        The Alpha designations (K,L,M etc) indicate the model year.

        I just verified this with my Factory (Suzuki) service manual.

        K = 88
        L = 89
        M = 90 etc etc
        Talk to Sprague as he is the one that has a pre with the 5/8" piston. Don't know what year he has exactly.

        Oh well if it is the same piston will not make any diff then.

        Tmod

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        • #19
          Well I can't find a part # on my 91's original master cylinder..but it does have 5/8 embossed on it under the resovoir. And I swear it looks like 14 is stamped in the same spot on the '06 master that's on the Kat now...

          But that would mean the 5/8 master cylinder would have a bigger piston than the 06..?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ctandc View Post
            Well I can't find a part # on my 91's original master cylinder..but it does have 5/8 embossed on it under the resovoir. And I swear it looks like 14 is stamped in the same spot on the '06 master that's on the Kat now...

            But that would mean the 5/8 master cylinder would have a bigger piston than the 06..?
            Yep that is what I was saying, So you did have the 5/8" piston and now you have the 14mm piston, should not be the same rebuild kit.

            Tmod

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            • #21
              Originally posted by GytRDunKat View Post
              Uhm, I went through gallons of brake fluid after the zx10 lever/reservoir install... Keep pumpin dude (also have HEL's). From what I gather a vacuum pump won't help if you have speed bleeders like me. Pump pump pump! I was done pumping, then like 45 minutes later, still saw air coming out. I'm no expert though, but I could do a stoppie now if it weren't for the tire slipping, which I've experienced... no fun.

              As for lever travel, I think I know what you mean, I could smash it to my knuckles by 2 finger braking. I pull my fingers out, and it would go to the throttle tube.. Now, I blow on the lever and I'm going end over end.
              I searched but obviously couldn't find it...Any details on your ZX10 Master Cylinder install?

              I'm surfing Ebay now.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ctandc View Post
                I searched but obviously couldn't find it...Any details on your ZX10 Master Cylinder install?

                I'm surfing Ebay now.
                I think it is a radial master cylinder so a newer GSXR would work as well.

                Tmod
                Last edited by Tmod; 02-22-2009, 09:33 PM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Tmod View Post
                  I think it is a radial master cylinder so a newer GSXR would work as well.

                  Tmod
                  So you've done the swap as well?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ctandc View Post
                    So you've done the swap as well?
                    I haven't done the radial but I did go to a GSXR and then back to the kat mc.

                    I changed my whole brake setup though.

                    Tmod

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Tmod View Post
                      I haven't done the radial but I did go to a GSXR and then back to the kat mc.

                      I changed my whole brake setup though.

                      Tmod
                      I think I'm going to try the banjo bolt with the bleeder (it's already on the way)...if that doesn't do it, I'll bite the bullet and spend the $20 to rebuild the '06 Kat master cylinder on my bike now...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ctandc View Post
                        I think I'm going to try the banjo bolt with the bleeder (it's already on the way)...if that doesn't do it, I'll bite the bullet and spend the $20 to rebuild the '06 Kat master cylinder on my bike now...
                        Keep us updated.

                        Tmod

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                        • #27
                          Getting fluid through dry lines is a PITA. The pneumatic bleeder helps pull the fluid down to force out the air. It would take a lifetime if you wanted to wait for the air in dry lines to clear through the reservoir. Attempting to force the air out of dry lines through the brake lever is going to take forever but it sure will help build up your stamina in your forearm.

                          Since you are using speed bleeders the pneumatic may not work as well for you. Just to test I'd throw the standard bleeder pins back into the calipers and see if it makes any difference.

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                          • #28
                            Waiting on the banjo bolt with bleeder. Should be here today or tomorrow.

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                            • #29
                              ctandc did you ever get anywhere with this? just curious because my 06 750 with an all stock setup has started to show excessive lever travel. Wondering what you did to fix it if you got it fixed.

                              Marc


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