I totaly agree with all three of the last posts. I think we have met a common ground...lol Everyone was just so quick to judge this guy along with others for not wearing what they would or should wear.
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Originally posted by tzortnGuys correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that BP and Wingspan tend to view the motorcycle as a toy or a luxury.
I think some of you need to stop putting your own thoughts into what I've said. I have not dictated what others should wear. I have not called anyone a squid. I've not judged anyone for wearing less than full gear. Even when I poked fun at 246STUNNA, it was with regard to his fashion sense and not because he wasn't wearing leathers.
What I have done is disputed this idea that people are forced to ride with less gear than they themselves feel they should, because people aren't forced to ride. Is there some odd instance in the world where a person was in some life or death situation that dictated riding without a helmet...maybe but is that really a common situation? You can buy a cheap used car for about the same as a cheap bike. Bicycles are still viable transportation in urban areas. Walking has always been free.
In the overwhelming majority of cases, people want a bike and they want it now. If they don't have the money at the time to buy a bike and gear, they buy the bike. They think to themselves, "I'll buy the bike now, and get a helmet next payday (month, year, whatever)" Then, when someone says something about their gear, they get defensive and pretend as though they had no choice. When more often than not, they did have a choice and chose to get the bike first.
I personally....would buy a bike and ride with just a helmet and gloves before I didn't ride at all. My riding style would obviously ease up a bit but I would still be riding. If anything, for the gas saving capabilities and ease of commute afforded by a motorcycle. That's just me though. Maybe others will sit in their bedroom dressed in their full leathers, helmet and Kevlar gloves making engine noises....I would rather be riding.
Do you think those guys just making noises do so because they'd rather have gear than a bike? Hell no!I like you. When the world is mine your death will be quick and painless.
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wingspan while my commit never called you out personaly it does call out many people on KR. all you have to do is type squid in the search area and you find all the people who seems that its there right to label others who do stuff differently squids.
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Originally posted by koolcuttawingspan while my commit never called you out personaly it does call out many people on KR. all you have to do is type squid in the search area and you find all the people who seems that its there right to label others who do stuff differently squids.
squid (skwd)
n. pl. squids or squid
A motorcycle rider who demonstrates a lack of respect for the general public and the failure to realize the possible negative impact that could result from their riding actions on public or non-public roads.
The squid is just unable to rationalize or conceptualize the possible negative outcomes resulting from their actions. This is regardless of whether or not they wear protective gear.
The squid does not realize that it is not that they are not wearing gear that makes them a squid - it is the fact that they think they are exempt from social morales and can pull a 10 o`clock wheelie on public roads or weave in and out of traffic at twice the traffic speed just because they can.
We're all squids in someone's eyes, btw...some riders are just seen that way by more people than others.I like you. When the world is mine your death will be quick and painless.
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Originally posted by tzortnGuys correct me if I am wrong, but it seems that BP and Wingspan tend to view the motorcycle as a toy or a luxury. Therefore they feel that if you are going to buy this toy you better be able to buy motorcycle specific protective gear along with it.
If your state says you need insurance to have a vehicle, then you carry that insurance or you get ticketed or you don't drive a vehicle. These are the costs of exercising the privilege of driving. If you can't insure your vehicle you can't drive it. Too poor to insure the vehicle? Then you can't drive. Why do states make it a law that you wear a seat belt and carry insurance? Because too many people who made poor choices forced them too. Either for economic reasons (insurance) or the people of the state decided to try and legislate stupidity (seat belt laws).
It does not have to be full race leathers with an Arai helmet, but it should be a decent padded/armored jacket, SNELL/DOT helmet etc.
Canatuna is looking at it like some guy may be riding a cheap bike to get by until they have the cash to buy better gear. Is this correct?
My only mode of transportation in Austin was my bike.. It was putting food on the table. Look either you take a motorcycle seriously or you're a squid to me.. You may think of your bike as a luxury Tzortn but it is not a toy!
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Originally posted by madkatanaLike I said before, don't wear the proper gear, thats okay whether you can afford it or not...Just wish my tax money didn't go to all the road rash kings out there...
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Originally posted by koolcuttaOriginally posted by madkatanaLike I said before, don't wear the proper gear, thats okay whether you can afford it or not...Just wish my tax money didn't go to all the road rash kings out there...
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My CLOSING argument:
I dont really care at this point. People will do as they do. I think everyone should do what they can to protect themselves while riding. Some choose not to though. Some refuse to and yes...some cant afford all of the gear that they "should" have. I am speaking from experience in MY personal situation at one point. That is no longer the case but it applies to others as well.
I appriciate everyones input....now I'm going to strap on my Rugby helmet and Nike's to go carve some foot hills......in the rain...up hill both ways....with batting gloves on....have a nice day.Keep right except to pass!
myspace.com/brianlmullins
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Originally posted by CANATUNAMy CLOSING argument:
I dont really care at this point. People will do as they do. I think everyone should do what they can to protect themselves while riding. Some choose not to though. Some refuse to and yes...some cant afford all of the gear that they "should" have. I am speaking from experience in MY personal situation at one point. That is no longer the case but it applies to others as well.
I appriciate everyones input....now I'm going to strap on my Rugby helmet and Nike's to go carve some foot hills......in the rain...up hill both ways....with batting gloves on....have a nice day.
but closing arguments does this mean the debates over guess I'll move move on to another topic.
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Originally posted by AzCycoYou guys crack me up, seriously...
He's a kid, let him play. Once he goes down hard, I'll bet ya anything he's posting pics of his new suit ::
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[quote="AzCyco"]You guys crack me up, seriously...
He's a kid, let him play. Once he goes down hard, I'll bet ya anything he's posting pics of his new suit ::
Was this comment directed towards me?Keep right except to pass!
myspace.com/brianlmullins
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