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UPON FURTHER REVIEW
We have discovered that for the Kat application the following filters are completely IDENTICAL;
Napa Gold 1359
Napa Powersport PS1359
WIX 51359
Micron ratings, flow rates, casings all identical, aside from the Napa Gold being white whereas the Wix and NPS are black. For a couple bucks, I'll deal with a white filter...
Granted, they are all made by WIX with virtually the same part number, but I was led to believe that the powersports were valved differently. Not in the case of this particular filter. Other filters may be different, but right now I'm not spending the time to double check every single one. If you have an app you would like me to look up, I'll do it for you but I am not going to list them all individually.Last edited by teddy; 07-13-2010, 09:50 PM.
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Originally posted by EmpiGTVYou know why you shouldn't hold in your farts? Because they'll travel up your spine and into your brain. That's where shitty ideas come from.
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Ted, do you have a NAPA application for the ZZR? When you say it's valved, are you talking about the spring in the filter that is supposed to help hold oil in the filter and prevent a drain back of oil out of the filter so you have oil at start-up?
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1358 for the ZZR, dad. The valve is an anti drain back valve, and it also has a bypass valve for if the filter somehow gets clogged it will still allow oil flow back into the engine.
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Originally posted by EmpiGTVYou know why you shouldn't hold in your farts? Because they'll travel up your spine and into your brain. That's where shitty ideas come from.
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+1! Many thanks for this insight. FWIW, I have used both HiFlo (AU$22) and Vesrah (AU$20) filters over several years with no apparent problems - although I haven't pulled them apart. (K&Ns are about AU$30 - US$26 - parts here are way expensive!) Just ordered a bunch of K&Ns from the US so I hope you show them to be worthwhile.
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Originally posted by TRPUT View Post+1! Many thanks for this insight. FWIW, I have used both HiFlo (AU$22) and Vesrah (AU$20) filters over several years with no apparent problems - although I haven't pulled them apart. (K&Ns are about AU$30 - US$26 - parts here are way expensive!) Just ordered a bunch of K&Ns from the US so I hope you show them to be worthwhile.
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Originally posted by EmpiGTVYou know why you shouldn't hold in your farts? Because they'll travel up your spine and into your brain. That's where shitty ideas come from.
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Originally posted by teddy View PostFrom what most can tell, a K&N is the exact same filter as the hi-flo, with a nut welded to the end of the can.
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Originally posted by TRPUT View PostCould be sales double speak???Last edited by teddy; 07-13-2010, 09:51 PM.
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Originally posted by EmpiGTVYou know why you shouldn't hold in your farts? Because they'll travel up your spine and into your brain. That's where shitty ideas come from.
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I've got a filter cutter coming from my filter rep on monday to slice open the PS1359 I had on the bike for 'after' pictures....stay tuned...
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Originally posted by EmpiGTVYou know why you shouldn't hold in your farts? Because they'll travel up your spine and into your brain. That's where shitty ideas come from.
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Oh cool! That way you can look for the metal shavings-Steve
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OK, here are the 'after' pics of the NAPA PS1359 filter I've had on my bike for better than 6K miles. I skip every other oil change on the filter like the book says. From what I saw of the guts of this, I probably could have gone a third....
First off, all of the innards; drainback valve, bypass valve, filter base and retaining spring are in just as good of shape as the new filter I cut up a while back, just covered in oil. The outer can is still harder than all hell to cut, even with the fancy cutter my rep let me use. The filter element itself is outstanding. No signs of deteriation (sp?) whatsoever. All pleats are completely intact, and show no obvious signs of failure...no rips, tears, holes or anything else out of the sort. I'll let the pics do the talking, please excuse their quality.
In case anyone is curious, both oil changes were done with Mobil1 Racing 4T...and the bike wasn't exactly babied either...
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Originally posted by EmpiGTVYou know why you shouldn't hold in your farts? Because they'll travel up your spine and into your brain. That's where shitty ideas come from.
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-Steve
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