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larger motor for a '91 Kat 600
I'm new to this forum, and I posted some of these questions elsewhere BEFORE I read this awesome thread. There's a lot of information in this thread, and I hope that I understood and retained most of it. I'll be sure to reread it later.
I need another motor for my '91 Katana 600. The carbs on the original motor need reworked, and there is a slight leak from a dented oil pan that was caused by someone else dropping my bike. I also need new pipes since the old ones are getting rusty. The bike needs other minor work as well. According to a mechanic at the dealership, since the current motor is in such bad shape, it'll cost too much and be too labor intensive to work on the motor that's in the bike now.
1. What are the pros and cons of installing a GSXR 1100 or other non-Katana 600 motor in my Katana?
2. A person at the dealership said that the frame/suspension might not be able to handle the larger engine. How true is this?
3. Which larger motor would be the EASIEST to install with the least amount of mods to the motor and the rest of the bike?
4. Which motor would give me the best increase in performance? I'm assessing either the GSXR1100 or the Bandit motor would, but I'm not certain which.
Does anyone know the rules for Dinosaur Class racing? My bike will be eligible for this class in 2007 or 2008.
5. Would installing a larger engine make it ineligible for Dinosaur Class?
6. Is it even worth racing an old Katana in this class?
7. Is it true that it's hard to get racing slicks for a Kat?
8. Asides from the motor and a 750 swingarm, what other parts do I need?
9. Obviously, the lower the better, but how many miles MAX should a replacement motor have for me to consider buying it?
Frank
[EDIT: email address deleted]"Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is not safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing."
~ Helen Keller, The Open Door (1927)
'91 600 purchased in January 2000 with 7,707 miles
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Re: larger motor for a '91 Kat 600
Here's what I can offer you....I'm sure Cyberpoet will be along eventually...and some of the other guys who have fabricated on early models will know more about swaps and that kind of thing. :P
1. What are the pros and cons of installing a GSXR 1100 or other non-Katana 600 motor in my Katana?
2. A person at the dealership said that the frame/suspension might not be able to handle the larger engine. How true is this?
4. Which motor would give me the best increase in performance? I'm assessing either the GSXR1100 or the Bandit motor would, but I'm not certain which.
6. Is it even worth racing an old Katana in this class?
7. Is it true that it's hard to get racing slicks for a Kat?FrankenKat 1216
GS Fiter 816
GSXR750! (race)
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Re: larger motor for a '91 Kat 600
Originally posted by ZephyrNewYork
1. What are the pros and cons of installing a GSXR 1100 or other non-Katana 600 motor in my Katana?
2. A person at the dealership said that the frame/suspension might not be able to handle the larger engine. How true is this?
3. Which larger motor would be the EASIEST to install with the least amount of mods to the motor and the rest of the bike?
4. Which motor would give me the best increase in performance? I'm assessing either the GSXR1100 or the Bandit motor would, but I'm not certain which.
8. Asides from the motor and a 750 swingarm, what other parts do I need?
9. Obviously, the lower the better, but how many miles MAX should a replacement motor have for me to consider buying it?
Allways test and inspect before you buy!
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Re: larger motor for a '91 Kat 600
Originally posted by ZephyrNewYorkI'm new to this forum, and I posted some of these questions elsewhere BEFORE I read this awesome thread. There's a lot of information in this thread, and I hope that I understood and retained most of it. I'll be sure to reread it later.
I need another motor for my '91 Katana 600. The carbs on the original motor need reworked, and there is a slight leak from a dented oil pan that was caused by someone else dropping my bike. I also need new pipes since the old ones are getting rusty. The bike needs other minor work as well. According to a mechanic at the dealership, since the current motor is in such bad shape, it'll cost too much and be too labor intensive to work on the motor that's in the bike now.
1. What are the pros and cons of installing a GSXR 1100 or other non-Katana 600 motor in my Katana?
2. A person at the dealership said that the frame/suspension might not be able to handle the larger engine. How true is this?
3. Which larger motor would be the EASIEST to install with the least amount of mods to the motor and the rest of the bike?
4. Which motor would give me the best increase in performance? I'm assessing either the GSXR1100 or the Bandit motor would, but I'm not certain which.
Does anyone know the rules for Dinosaur Class racing? My bike will be eligible for this class in 2007 or 2008.
5. Would installing a larger engine make it ineligible for Dinosaur Class?
6. Is it even worth racing an old Katana in this class?
7. Is it true that it's hard to get racing slicks for a Kat?
8. Asides from the motor and a 750 swingarm, what other parts do I need?
9. Obviously, the lower the better, but how many miles MAX should a replacement motor have for me to consider buying it?
Frank
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I agree with the above 2:
Easiest swap is a early 750 kat. Hardest is the B12, but its just about the same as the easiest one!
Most HP is the 1990 GSXR 1127
Most torque............1999 B12
the rest is pretty musch covered by the above 2............I've owned over 70 Katanas - you think I know anything about them?
Is there such a thing as TOO MANY BIKES?
Can you go TOO FAST on a bike?
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I've owned over 70 Katanas - you think I know anything about them?
Is there such a thing as TOO MANY BIKES?
Can you go TOO FAST on a bike?
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With regards to swapping an Air/Oil cooled 750 GSXR or GSXF engine into a '90 600 Kat, would one be able to use the stock 600 swingarm and wheel/sprocket?
I think I found the engine for me:
1988 GSXR 750 Slingshot (the 73x44.7 stroke/bore vs the standard 70x48.7)
Full Yoshimura Exhaust
36mm Carbs w/ Stage 3 jet kit
CDI
Engine has 14,000 km or so on it.
Good price too - under $1000 CAD for all of it.
-GrimmyRace Superseries Novice Open, Amateur Superbike #224 Suzuki GSXR-1000
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Originally posted by GrimmyWith regards to swapping an Air/Oil cooled 750 GSXR or GSXF engine into a '90 600 Kat, would one be able to use the stock 600 swingarm and wheel/sprocket?
I think I found the engine for me:
1988 GSXR 750 Slingshot (the 73x44.7 stroke/bore vs the standard 70x48.7)
Full Yoshimura Exhaust
36mm Carbs w/ Stage 3 jet kit
CDI
Engine has 14,000 km or so on it.
Good price too - under $1000 CAD for all of it.
-Grimmy
SURE! Fits right in, and swing arm set-up you have will work fine. You'll find that you'll get a littel better "stay on teh ground" riding from a 750 swing arm though, as its about 1.5" longer........I've owned over 70 Katanas - you think I know anything about them?
Is there such a thing as TOO MANY BIKES?
Can you go TOO FAST on a bike?
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Thanks guys for such a fast response - I recently posted on a number of site looking for an engine, thinking it would be hard to find - turns out there is quite a few, and they are coming out of the woodwork, litterally from under people's stairs it seems!
-GrimmyRace Superseries Novice Open, Amateur Superbike #224 Suzuki GSXR-1000
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Hey..this has been bugging me for quite some time...
What exactly IS the difference between the speedo pickup on the '98+ Kat and the '01+ Bandit 12? Is it just a different size/shape of pickup? Or is it in a completely different position on the bandit? Kwebbel, Special K...anyone? Is there any way to simplify this part of the swap? I remember someone saying that you can't drill the hardened steel case cover.....but I'm pretty sure that the drill presses we have at work could do it...our machinists work with cold rolled, T1 etc. all the time, so there's gotta be something I can do....
Is the B-12 a speedo cable, and the Kat using a pickup instead?
Thoughts? Pictures? Info? Thanks guys!FrankenKat 1216
GS Fiter 816
GSXR750! (race)
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