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Old 09-17-2006, 03:51 PM   #1
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Default Really rusted pipes

hello all,
On with the project 97 katana.
I tried with all my might today to get off the old mufflers from the front of the motor. The bolts are very rusted. The bike sat outside for 9 months under a cover, so the pipes and bolts are in rough shape.
What I tried so far:
1. swearing
2. lots of WD-40
3. Heat: a blow torque on one for about a minute to loosen it. Nothing.
4. Drill with an allen wrench end on it. Would not budge.
5. more swearing

I may take it to my mechanic just to take the mufflers off so I do not strip things.
Any other suggestions?
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Old 09-17-2006, 04:49 PM   #2
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P.B. Blaster, it's awsome stuff. Available at Wal-Mart, hardware or auto parts stores every where.
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:01 PM   #3
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2nd PB blaster... its like WD40 on crack...

spray the hell outa the nuts/bolts every few hrs for a day and come back to it tommarow...

also tapping bolts with a hammer sometimes helps
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^^^^^^what he sad adout crack hilarous^^^^^^
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:17 PM   #5
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...thats how it was introduced to me about 5 years back when i got into mr-2's... "wd40 on crack"

put a little in the bottom of a styraphom (SP?) cup and it will EAT it away...

sometimes you can literaly HEAR it eatting away at the rust... it's kewl stuff
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:54 PM   #6
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Thanks all,
I will give PB blaster a try!
the more I can do on this project without a mechanic the more I learn!
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Old 09-17-2006, 07:56 PM   #7
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PS, pictures of the beast and its progress coming.............its going to be one tough, ugly street bike when it is done!
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The traditional methods:

1. Use a long-armed wrench and an allen-key socket (8mm allen if I recall right).

2. Take an impact driver and put in the right tip (8mm allen I think), then give 'em a bit of a swack in the tighter direction (to break the grip without breaking the bolt. Reverse and swack 'em again (much harder this time) to loosen... OR

3. Take a set of vice-grips to the heads of the bolts (around the outside), being careful to apply pressure in a rotational motion so you don't shear 'em off.

No matter what, if they're rusted, you're not going to get 'em out holding a traditional hand-held allen key. When you go to put them (or their replacements) back in, coat them with high-temp anti-seize to avoid a repeat of this problem in the future.

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Old 09-17-2006, 08:28 PM   #9
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ah didn't relize they where hex keys... still so used to my car guy days...

as usualy cyber is right on the money though... tighten slightly before trying to loosen will help...
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Man, when I saw this post I was totally ready to jump on it and bust somebody's chops about : MUST HAVE BEEN HEAT WRAP TAPE!
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