probably any real leather gloves would protect against the cold hair seaping through...

lol dude i had wool gloves and my leathers on top of that and did not work

PM me . I'm local kinda. Profile?

Levels of Hand Thermal Protection:

Stage 1: Cold-Weather specific ridings Gloves (I currently use a set of TourMaster Winter Elite; I have had other branded pairs from Europe that worked better, and suspect some of TourMasters' other winter gloves may work better as well).

Stage 2: Enduro-style hand guards. These deflect the wind, reducing heat loss. About $30 for a decent set. Install come winter, take off come warm.

Stage 3: Heated grips. There are many different types, including wraps that simply go around existing grips, as well as full replacement grips. Adds heat from the inside of your hand (although you lose the heat from the outside, which is why I put the hand gaurds higher on the list).

Stage 4: Bar-mitts. These are like extra gloves that fit over your arm, hand, the controls, sealing up the whole deal. Here's one rather ugly (IMHO) Example.

Stage 5: Heated gloves. Gerbing makes well respected ones... and what I'd use if I got to the point that I needed them.

If that's not enough (between all 5 stages), it's probably time to stop riding.

KNOW THIS:
Traditional windchill tables do not cover the type of temperature drops you get at highway speeds on a motorcycle. Years ago, the US Air Force came up with a separate table for people working in such high-speed conditions, and it is still considered the definitive guide. According to it, 59 degree ambient at 60 mph = 33 degree effective at the boundary layer of the clothing or exposed skin. If it was 30 degrees outside, and you were doing 60 mph, that would probably put your effective surface temp around 4 degrees!

Cheers,
=-= The CyberPoet

HAHA my hands definately felt like 4 degrees....thanks for the advice...Everything else was fine it was jus my hands that were bout to fall off. Wat bout neoprene gloves u think those would work under my leather gloves?

even a pair of isotoners under your current gloves, fairly reasonably priced will help. Investing in a good pair of cold wear gloves would be the ideal scenario, IMO, if u plan on doing alot of riding in the chilly temps.

the TourMaster Winter Elites look very warm i think i might pick some of those up on tuesday

Might work, but I'd look for "real" winter gloves with thinsulate or other serious insulation, and maybe throw a set of heated Gerbing glove liners under them (buy large so you can). If I told you that for the next 60 minutes you had to stand there holding a block of solid ice, what would you get? That ice is only 32 degrees... your gloves were exposed to 4 degrees... think about it.

Cheers,
=-= The CyberPoet

haha thanks for reminding me my hands are hurting jus thinking bout it. Yea but imma get those tourmasters. If need be i will slip on my wool finger gloves below them but they sound like they would be good in themselves

I always liked soaking my hands in hot water when I came in from the cold , but I'm told that's not a good thing to do .....
Leater gloves do okay for me down to about 40-45 . After that , my hands get stiff . Got some Dickies work gloves that are fleece lined , and those help down to a little less than 40 , but still my hands get stiff below that . I'd LOVE to try some heated grips this winter . I'm mostly okay down to about 30-35 , but my hands can never seem to take it below 40 .

Cyber im guessing the tourmasters work wonders in the 30 degree weather?

One of the guys hear used to ride year round. He tells me that the only non heated gloves that worked were Outdoor Research over mitts. http://www.orgear.com/home/category/.../gloves/ascent You may also want to look for lobster claw gloves. It is like a mitten, but your index and middle finger is paired so you get more flexibility.

I'm really not a fair candidate to answer that... I was massively hyperthyroidic from about '98 till the start/mid of '04, which meant I could go out riding in shorts and a Tshirt in 40 degree weather and feel fine... with the treatments, I flipped to the other side of the coin, and went hypothyroidic, so now I get cold quite easily even in warmer temps (60's). But they are substancially warmer than any other glove I currently own, and I wear them any time the temp drops in the mid-50's and below. For 30-something weather, I'd probably search for something more than just the elites, though (esp. if you're prone to sweaty palms -- the winter elites don't breathe at all -- instead check out TourMaster Polar Elite or read through WebBikeWorld) -- but then again, I probably wouldn't be riding a Kat if there was a decent chance of black ice (gimme something that I can drop without significant damages & lift more readily on my own).

Cheers,
=-= The CyberPoet

Why does the Floridian have colder weather gear? Now Germany sure, but Florida?


j/k

Its hanging around 34-40 F in Pullman and I dont want to give up riding. But I cry a lot