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    Riding speed vs percieved speed.

    Very recently there was a thread (not linking it, it's dead, and doesn't need to be brought back) where it was discussed that there is no where any need to "drag a knee" at "30-35 mph" on the dragon.

    While I'll say certainly not every curve, I found this vid interesting in that it shows the speeds of a SS bike going up the dragon. The bike in front clearly shows the lean angle and knee dragging going on.

    I would also stipulate that a Katana is going to take the corners a little slower for the same lean angle and close if not actual knee down dragging on some of those curves. Being as some of those cruves shows speeds of the bike dropping in the vid as low as 38mph... I have to disagree with the original statement that there is no need at under 35mph to have a need even close to the ground. I see in the vid (and from personal experiance as well) that if your travelling the speed limit (30mph) or slightly over (35mph) that there just might be a few spots that it's certainly possible for a rider to have a knee touch on a heavier and slower bike like the Kat.


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgSF8hvAxUc"]‪Bikes on the Dragon‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]


    Now, "need" to get a knee down is not a "to make it around the curve your knee must touch".... I'm NOT saying that. Obviously you can run just about any curve and not touch your knee to the ground.

    But... I am saying that with proper positioning, and keeping with in a reasonable range of the speed limit on the dragon... there are certainly several curves that a knee might accidentally touch the ground...

    Krey
    93 750 Kat



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    My goal for the end of the summer once my broken hand heals haha

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Heineken View Post
      My goal for the end of the summer once my broken hand heals haha
      Did you miss the entire point of Krey's thread?
      Originally posted by arsenic
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      • #4
        Originally posted by HemiKat View Post
        Did you miss the entire point of Krey's thread?
        Yes, in fact he did.
        90% of motorcycle forum members do not have a service manual for their bike.

        Originally posted by Badfaerie
        I love how the most ignorant people I have met are the ones that fling the word "ignorant" around like it's an insult, or poo. Maybe they think it means poo
        Originally posted by soulless kaos
        but personaly I dont see a point in a 1000 you can get the same power from a properly tuned 600 with less weight and better handeling.

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        • #5
          It's ok though it's over his pay grade.

          @ Krey I agree with the idea that trying to get a knee down at every corner is a bit dangerous and reckless but that might just be the type of rider i am.
          i don't really have a need to go fast as i'm always too busy enjoying the scenery.
          Please, Just go home, relax, and have a think or two... hell... have as many as you can handle! It'll do all of us some good.
          Tony
          94 Katana 600

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          • #6
            What's the big deal with all this knee down stuff? I get my knee down just about every ride. It's easier to check tire pressure that way.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ygolohcysp View Post
              What's the big deal with all this knee down stuff? I get my knee down just about every ride. It's easier to check tire pressure that way.
              typical Rev!

              Well put Krey!!!
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              • #8
                Just knowing the roads helps out like these guys knowing every bump on the road from 3-4 pases a week for almost ever .http://www.youtube.com/v/14qO1MYpszk...dded&version=3

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                • #9
                  Having your knee down is an end, not a means.

                  Getting your knee down does not mean you're fast, just means you can hang off the bike. I can get my knees onto the pavement easily but there are guys out here who will fly by me without ever leaving the seat...

                  I hear you Tim, good post.

                  "Smooth is fast, fast is fun."
                  90% of motorcycle forum members do not have a service manual for their bike.

                  Originally posted by Badfaerie
                  I love how the most ignorant people I have met are the ones that fling the word "ignorant" around like it's an insult, or poo. Maybe they think it means poo
                  Originally posted by soulless kaos
                  but personaly I dont see a point in a 1000 you can get the same power from a properly tuned 600 with less weight and better handeling.

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                  • #10
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by il_ragazzo View Post
                      It's ok though it's over his pay grade.

                      @ Krey I agree with the idea that trying to get a knee down at every corner is a bit dangerous and reckless but that might just be the type of rider i am.
                      i don't really have a need to go fast as i'm always too busy enjoying the scenery.
                      +1

                      Originally posted by flash007 View Post
                      WTF!!
                      +1,000,000 seriously... wtf?
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                      • #12
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