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  • How To: Front Turn Signal Running Light Conversion.

    This "How To" goes along with my Hyper Lites install I did late last year, in the sense that I wanted to make the Kat more visible.

    Always being envious of those bikes that had turn signal running lights, I've been wanting to convert the Kat's signals to running lights to make the front end more visible to oncoming traffic, especially during the winter season. Up to this point the only way to do so, besides wiring another small bulb into the signal housing, was to spend around $100 to get a turn signal/running light conversion gadget.

    Recently I found a much less expense way of doing the conversion. Custom Dynamics has a device that will convert any single filament turn signal bulb into a turn signal and running light with 100% illumination, meaning the bulb is not dimmed for the running light function. The cost for the gizmo is $32 plus shipping.


    This pic shows the gizmo itself and the five (5) wires needed to hook up. Notice that the blue wire is not used for this application. I just snipped it off where it exits out of the gizmo. The blue wire is an active wire so you must do something to prevent it for grounding or shorting out.




    First step is to find a switched 12V power source to power the running lights. I have a Blue Sea power pannel, so finding a switched hot wire was easy. This is a borrowed pic when I did my Hawe Oiler install, this way you can see what it looks like mounted. The switched 12V power source will be connected to the RED wire on the "Turn Signal Input Side".



    Here's the instructions for wiring the "Magic Blinkers". Make note of the "optional load equalizer", because the instruction don't say it is needed. More to come on this subject. The rest of the four (4) wires will be wired to the existing turn signal wires. Cut off the stock connector with enough wire to be able to solder in the wires from the gizmo this way:

    Right Side Wires

    The GREEN turn signal wire is connected to the WHITE wire on the "Turn Signal Input Side" of the gizmo. The BLACK wire from the turn signal will be wired to the BLACK wire on the "Turn Signal Input Side" of the gizmo.

    On the "Turn Signal Output Side", the GREEN wire from the stock connector is connected to the YELLOW wire comming from the "Turn Signal Output Side" of the gizmo. Lastly, the BLACK wire from the stock connector is wired to the BLACK wire from the "Turn Signal Output Side" of the gizmo.



    Left Side Wires

    The BLACK wire with WHITE dots will be connected to the WHITE wire from the "Turn Signal Input Side" of the gizmo. The BLACK wire with WHITE strip will be connected to the BLACK wire from the "Turn Signal Input Side" of the gizmo.

    On the "Turn Signal Output Side", the YELLOW wire is connected to the BLACK wire with WHITE dots. And lastly, BLACK wire from the gizmo is connected to the BLACK wire with WHITE strip from the stock turn signal wire.



    Now you just need to find a mounting spot for these two devices. This pic shows where I mounted it to the right side.



    I uesd a hot melt glue gun and I had to use my Dremmel tool to sand away the paint for the glue to stick. When I tried to glue it to the painted surface, it was loose the next day. This is pic for the the mounting location for the left side. You will notice an arrow pointing to where I first tried to mount the gadget to the plastic headlight mount, but it too became loose after testing it's adhesion.



    Now you''ll also notice in these pics of another black box with wires. I found out the with the gizmo hooked up, that the stock turn signal flasher would think that a bulb was burnt out and flash at a double rate, because the gizmo draws very low power from the stock flasher. I suspect that the gizmo dosen't even use power from the flasher, it just needs the signal from it, so it knows when the flasher has been turned on. As a result I had to buy a Universal Turn Signal Load Equalizer to put back a load on the turn signals. I bought the 4 Amp one, but maybe I should have gotton the 2 Amp, because even with the turn signal plug disconnected, it still flashes at a regular rate. It's cost is $15.25.


    The way to wire this device is that one PURPLE wire is connected to the WHITE wire on the "Turn Signal Input Side", and the other PURPLE wire is connected to the other WHITE wire. Then the BLACK wire goes to a common ground. Here's a illustration of a typical install of the equalizer.




    Well that's it. They work as advertised, and I didn't have to spend a least a $100 to get exactly what I wanted. On to my next farkle, an oil cooler guard.
    Last edited by squiggy; 12-10-2007, 04:34 AM.
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  • #2
    Great write up..
    For pre 98 folks you can do this too.
    Buy OEM style or aftermarket units
    as dual filiment. In other words add rear
    units to the front. There should be an extra
    12v supply dangling unused near the headlight.
    This is your "runner" supply.
    Hook the turns up as normal.

    If you can't get rear or dual filiment units with
    longer stalks (to extend out through the fairing)
    you should be able to swap the bulb base.

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    • #3
      Update 4/8/08:

      I begining to have an issue with one of the gizzmo. The left one will fuction as a running light but the flasher part is not working. Looks like it lasted nearly 2 years.

      One thing to add to BP's comment is, at least for my 2001, the rear brake light is a two element socket. I've also confirmed that it is compatible with the front turn signals housing. One could buy and use the brake light socket as a running light and turn signal for the front as long as you wire up the third wire for the running light.

      Another thing I found out about having the running lights at 100% illumination is the heat generated by the lights. The heat split apart my Clear Alternative front signal lenses.







      Here's a pic between the Clear Alternative's with a mirrored lens, the amber bulb with a mirrored coating, and the OEM clear lens with a regular amber bulb.


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      • #4
        Is it me or does the stock/amber look brighter?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Black_peter View Post
          Is it me or does the stock/amber look brighter?
          may just be the angle or something, but yeah...it does.


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          • #6
            Originally posted by Black_peter View Post
            Great write up..
            For pre 98 folks you can do this too.
            Buy OEM style or aftermarket units
            as dual filiment. In other words add rear
            units to the front. There should be an extra
            12v supply dangling unused near the headlight.
            This is your "runner" supply.
            Hook the turns up as normal.

            If you can't get rear or dual filiment units with
            longer stalks (to extend out through the fairing)
            you should be able to swap the bulb base.
            I did running lights with flush mounts for my pre-98, very easy mod and looks great.
            "Men will get no more out of life than they put into it."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Black_peter View Post
              Is it me or does the stock/amber look brighter?
              Yes, it is brighter.

              I took that pic to show the difference in brightness between a regular amber colored bulb and those bling mirrored/silver coated amber bulbs.

              With the regular amber bulb you can see a little bit of amber coloring in the lens when the bike is off. I suppose that's the reason for the mirrored finish type in that no coloring is noticable when the lights are off. The negative side is those mirrored types have less illumination.
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              • #8
                Wow that looks pretty good!

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                • #9
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                  • #10
                    you know you can do this same thing for free? just a little rewire job. I did it all the time on vehicles, and bigrigs, it works the same on bikes. not sure on your year, but my 93 has two wires coming from the front turns, and it does not ground thru the housing. this is the first requirement for this to work.
                    next, take your ground wire, unhook it from the harness. now take the wire that goes to the light itself for ground, and find your running light wire. hook your ground for front turns to the running light wire. now when lights are on, the running lights will light up, and when you hit the blinkers that side will blink. hope that makes sense. hard to explain but easy to do.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dieselguy65 View Post
                      hook your ground for front turns to the running light wire.
                      Are you saying to connect a 12V source to the ground (negative) wire of the turn signal?

                      Are you using a single filament or dual filament bulb for this modification?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by squiggy View Post
                        Are you saying to connect a 12V source to the ground (negative) wire of the turn signal?

                        Are you using a single filament or dual filament bulb for this modification?

                        using a single filament bulb. simple electric circuit stuff. you have two wires coming from your fornt turns, one is hot and one is ground. it makes no difference which becaus ethe bulb housing is not common. if you take the one that goes to ground in your harness ma d disconnect it. then reconnect it to the running light wire. leaving the original ground wire in the harness UNHOOKED! now the lights will light with the running light, and blink with turns. I been doing this for years. literally like over 20yrs.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dieselguy65 View Post
                          if you take the one that goes to ground in your harness ma d disconnect it. then reconnect it to the running light wire.
                          I'm really interested in your idea so bear with me as I'm trying to understand your explanation.

                          Back to my first question, is the ground wire disconnected and then connected to a 12 volt source, a.k.a. running light wire?
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                          • #14
                            I can't speak to other bikes (make or year) beyond a '06 Kat, but I can't see anyway this can possibly work. By doing this, there's no path back to ground, so the lights just flat aren't going to work.

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                            • #15
                              It sounds like you'd connect the positive wire on your turn signal to the always on 12 V wire, and connect the turn signal's ground wire to the hot wire for the turn signal on the bike. Either this or vise-versa, no difference if you have an incandescent bulb.

                              That idea makes sense. When the turn signal is off, if the turn signal hot wire works as a ground it would allow the current to flow from the always on 12 V wire to the now grounded signal power wire. When the turn signal normally lights up, you get 12V on both connections to the signal, leaving the voltage difference at 0V for no current flow.

                              I didn't test it, but, if the hot turn signal wire does ground when off, this would work. It's too bad I just bidded on a magic blinker. Oh well.
                              Last edited by fattymcackerman; 05-27-2010, 09:43 PM.
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