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    does riding position matter to all of you when you are doing the twisties? lean slightly forward? straight? elbows bent? elbows locked?
    Matt


    The Difference Between Ordinary And Extraordinary Is That Little Extra

  • #2
    Locking the elbows (stiff arms) is not good - and I think every book on riding technique
    tells you so. You should sit leaning slightly forward holding most of your body
    weight with your stomach muscles, not your wrists. There's a lot of people
    on here that do track events that can give more details.

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    • #3
      I am no guru, but I can share with you what I attempt to do when riding canyons. I've attatched a pic of myself to help explain (no, I'm not showing off... )

      I get up on the tank, some say try to smash your family jewels against the tank...ok, don't smash too much. Going into this lefty (I think it was a 30mph turn), I swivel around the tank to the left, getting at least half of my butt off of the seat before turn entry and at even throttle and looking into the exit. I try to go in as deep as possible before i commit to leaning the bike into the turn. I use my lower body muscles as much as possible, keeping as much weight off the handlebars as possible.

      Before turn in, I have my anchor points set, outside foot pressing the outside peg, inner thigh on outside of turn pressed against the tank and forearms level with the ground, with my outside forearm anchored against the top portion of the tank.

      Inside turn leg swiveled out, I lean into the turn. Once the lean angle is set, the throttle is cracked open to steer me through the turn...always looking as far to the turn exit. I make my minor adjustments through the turn (I am no expert, I usually have to make adjustments), very carefully. Never choping the throttle, NEVER CHOPING THE THROTTLE! In too tight, I add a tad more throttle to pull me out a little. In too late, more lean and a tad more throttle. When I can see the exit it's throttle time to pull out.

      The goal is to keep inputs as non intrusive as possible. Not weighting the bars or moving around on the bike. Become one with the bike.

      A niclely exacuted turn suprisingly feels like it was too easy, a badly exacuted turn has you fighting all the way with lots of survival reactions.

      My advise to you is to take it slow, and not think about it too much. Work on loosening up your upper body and getting your lower body to do the work. Keep the forearms level with the ground, and use your anchor points. You can practice these techniques while normal street riding, just don't get crazy on the street like getting really leaned over to turn at an intersection. Take it slow, and work on a familiar road and start from your comfort level, and practice.

      Also, read "Sport Riding Techniques" and "Twist of the Wrist II". Great books, the two vary a little in technique (TOTWII is more track oriented), but they are great starting points into the wonderful world of enhanced sportriding.

      I'm sure others will post with far better advise than mine, so gather all of this info practice and see what works for you.

      DON'T RUSH YOURSELF!!!

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      • #4
        Well said ! You'll know it when you hit it just right . I had a day like that a few months ago where everything clicked . It was truly awe-inspiring for me . I checked out my tires when I got home and the front was balled up . Put a huge grin on my face ! Biggest thing to me is keep the arms loose , and don't move around once you actually enter the turn .
        I am a fluffy lil cuddly lovable bunny , dammit !



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        • #5
          Uh.....well.....uh.......everything HotLink said. =D>
          He was right on target and he practices what he preaches. (I've seen him)

          But look at the picture again. I think that might be OlderGuy in back. See how he's looking ahead, keeping his head and eyes up, picking up the exit instead of watching Jason or the road directly in front of him. I think that's one of the most important thing a new rider has to learn..... look ahead and look where you want to go. Target Fixation has ruined many a good riding day.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by tdrcomm
            Uh.....well.....uh.......everything HotLink said. =D>
            He was right on target and he practices what he preaches. (I've seen him)

            But look at the picture again. I think that might be OlderGuy in back. See how he's looking ahead, keeping his head and eyes up, picking up the exit instead of watching Jason or the road directly in front of him. I think that's one of the most important thing a new rider has to learn..... look ahead and look where you want to go. Target Fixation has ruined many a good riding day.
            Not OG, just some Palomar regular on a Yamaha. He was coming up on me fast. However, he had to wait for me through this turn, and i did not let his approach alter my line into the turn. I waved him by just after exit...This was only my second trip to Palomar. It was a real good one, too. I also had balled up both tires that day, something I had not done before.

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