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  • Tapered Steering head bearings?

    I've heard talk about these fancy tapered head bearings. Anyone here done this upgrade, if so where did you get your bearings, and what's involved? Other than the obvious remove old bearings / install new.

    Thanks,

    Chris

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    I think you have to get some tools. Take off the old bearings. Drink a Beer. Put in the New Bearings. Drink a Beer. Put away tools.
    Kan-O-Gixxer!
    -89 Gixxer 1100 Engine
    -Stage 3 Jet Kit / KNN Pod Filters
    -Ohlins Susupension
    -Various Other Mods

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    • #3
      Originally posted by SweetLou
      I think you have to get some tools. Take off the old bearings. Drink a Beer. Put in the New Bearings. Drink a Beer. Put away tools.
      Exactly the info i was looking for,

      Thanks

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      • #4
        NP!
        Kan-O-Gixxer!
        -89 Gixxer 1100 Engine
        -Stage 3 Jet Kit / KNN Pod Filters
        -Ohlins Susupension
        -Various Other Mods

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        • #5
          Re: Tapered Steering head bearings?

          Originally posted by chriskatana
          I've heard talk about these fancy tapered head bearings. Anyone here done this upgrade, if so where did you get your bearings, and what's involved? Other than the obvious remove old bearings / install new.
          There are differences in the bearings between the the 98 - 02 and the 03 - onwards. I'm not sure about the pre-98's.

          There's nothing fancy about tapered bearings in general. The only issue I know of is that the standard aftermarket steering head bearings hold up a bit longer (harder stuff) than the OEM ones. Treat them using the same specs (i.e. - same torque settings, etc).

          Cheers
          =-= The CyberPoet
          Remember The CyberPoet

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          • #6
            Re: Tapered Steering head bearings?

            Originally posted by The CyberPoet
            Originally posted by chriskatana
            I've heard talk about these fancy tapered head bearings. Anyone here done this upgrade, if so where did you get your bearings, and what's involved? Other than the obvious remove old bearings / install new.
            There are differences in the bearings between the the 98 - 02 and the 03 - onwards. I'm not sure about the pre-98's.

            There's nothing fancy about tapered bearings in general. The only issue I know of is that the standard aftermarket steering head bearings hold up a bit longer (harder stuff) than the OEM ones. Treat them using the same specs (i.e. - same torque settings, etc).

            Cheers
            =-= The CyberPoet
            yup what he said the hardess part it supportign the bike to take the front end off to change the lower bearing take a brass punch and a hammer some bearing grease 6 or 7 @#$ words and done.

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            • #7
              Do 98+ use the same style roller bearings as pre98? If they're different,would you need to also tap out the bearing races in the steering head and replace them with lones that matched the style of the bearing?

              Keith...your the man...are they the same or different?

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              • #8
                I installed these tapered steering head bearings. http://www.allballsracing.com/bearing_and_seal_kits.htm 98+ do not use tapered bearings. Pre98 I'm not sure both I've seen did have tapered bearings, but they may not have been stock.

                ....If they're different,would you need to also tap out the bearing races in the steering head and replace them with lones that matched the style of the bearing?
                Either way you want to tap the old bearing races out. They come with the new races. New bearings new races.

                ......... to change the lower bearing take a brass punch and a hammer some bearing grease 6 or 7 @#$ words and done.
                NNNNOOOOOO!!!!!

                The top bearings are easy to change pretty much slide on and off. The bottom is a pain in the azz. I would rent a bearing puller or take it to a shop to remove bottom bearings/race. DON'T USE A HAMMER AND PUNCH to install the bearings. The risk of the punch sliding off the race and damaging the bearings is way too high. Get a pipe the exact diameter of the race and use that to pound the bearing into place. Trust me I learned the hard way.
                '92 Kat restoration/mod project

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by floxera
                  98+ do not use tapered bearings
                  Actually, if I understand it correctly, the 98 - 02 use a tapered bearing for the upper bearing where the taper is built into the bearing module itself (as verses to being part of the steering stem design). To compare designs, take a look at:

                  Pre-98 Steering Stem Parts diagram
                  98-02 Steering Stem Parts Diagram
                  03+ Steering Stem Parts Diagram

                  Cheers
                  =-= The CyberPoet

                  Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day -- if he can stand fish. Teach a man to fiche, and he'll understand parts for life.
                  Remember The CyberPoet

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The CyberPoet

                    Actually, if I understand it correctly, the 98 - 02 use a tapered bearing for the upper bearing where the taper is built into the bearing module itself (as verses to being part of the steering stem design). To compare designs, take a look at:

                    Pre-98 Steering Stem Parts diagram
                    98-02 Steering Stem Parts Diagram
                    03+ Steering Stem Parts Diagram

                    Cheers
                    =-= The CyberPoet

                    Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day -- if he can stand fish. Teach a man to fiche, and he'll understand parts for life.
                    I'm sorry but your wrong. 98+ '98-'02 do not use tapered bearings top or bottom. I've ordered and returned the parts to ronayers.com. If you look closely at the fiches though pre98 look like they are tapered, 98+ you can see the round ball bearings(part 9) and 03 appear to be tapered on the upper bearing? maybe.

                    Edit : On the '98 to 02 fiche part 9 is the bearings in their cage. The fiche doesn't show the inner and outer races.
                    '92 Kat restoration/mod project

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                    • #11
                      I just had the steering bearings replace with the better ones I couldnt even steer when they went bad. pain in the but to do
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                      • #12
                        Just did a front end swap on a 02 Kat. the berings are not tapered and thats the fact Jack. used a 96 Gixx triple and 02 750 forks Busa front wheel and rotors.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Blackwidow
                          Just did a front end swap on a 02 Kat. the berings are not tapered and thats the fact Jack. used a 96 Gixx triple and 02 750 forks Busa front wheel and rotors.
                          NICE got any pics? Which bearings did you use on the swap?
                          '92 Kat restoration/mod project

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Blackwidow
                            Just did a front end swap on a 02 Kat. the berings are not tapered and thats the fact Jack. used a 96 Gixx triple and 02 750 forks Busa front wheel and rotors.
                            This is the kind of info alot of us are looking for. Was there any parts that did not fot? any others that you know will?
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