Anyone Used 1200 Bandit Carbs On Their 1100F?

[Bettyswolloks]

Hello there folks,

Having given up on ever stopping my carbs from doing a 1st rate impression of the titanic I've bitten the bullet and won a set of 1200 bandit carbs. They come with twin oval kn filters and a stage3 dynojet kit already fitted,the rest of the kit plus all the standard parts are included also. I'm also hoping to land a full gsxr1100 remus exhaust to compliment the carbs.

Has anyone here used the 1200 carbs on an otherwise standard 1100f

Anyone got any tips or tricks for me?

Cheers,
Daz.

[shpielers]

In case you were unaware, starting info:
1100 (1988-1993)
Type BST34SS
Main jets
carbs 1 and 4 - 112.5
carbs 2 and 3 - 110
Main air jet 0.6mm
Jet needle
California 5DL16
US except California 5DL11
UK 5DL7-3
Needle jet
California and UK P-0
All other P-2
Pilot jet
California and UK 42.5
All other 32.5
Pilot air jet
California 155
US except California 135
UK 150
Pilot screw setting
US 1.5 Turns out
88-90 UK 2-7/16
91 on UK 2-1/2


Bandit 1200 http://www.postdiluvian.org/~mason/moto/jetting.html
Have to scroll down a bit.

Good luck.

[Locomotion]

The main difference is the bandit uses 36mm carbs so will probably need the matching inlet rubbers as for the exhaust my bike came with a gsxr exhaust which gave zero clearance to the sump plug and the front pipes had been welded to the doner system.

[Bettyswolloks]

The carbs went on with minimal fuss and faf. The bike they came off, a mk 1200 Bandit, had a nice healthy sounding free flowing micron race can on it. The carbs had been set up on a dyno, they had/have oval KN filters and a stage 3 dynojet kit was used to dial it in. I was expecting to have to do some serious messing with the jetting to get them running even close to right on the big kat. But not so! Its not 100% spot on, but its not that far off! I measured the down pipes on my mates 1200 bandit and the down pipes on the kat and the kats are a lot bigger! So I'm guessing that explains it.

The carbs fit the standard 34 rubbers easily, a little light oil and they slide in nicely. The gsx throttle cable can be used but ideally a bandit cable would probably fit better, but with a little glue and a bit of thought the kat cable works fine. The choke cable fits perfectly.

The throttle response is nice and snappy, the bike feels more eager to rev, but that probably says more about the condition of the old set than this one.
So far I've only done 20 odd miles so cant really comment beyond that, I'm gunna be using it for work all week so I'll be in a better position to comment, mpg is something I'm hoping hasn't been to negatively effected.

[Locomotion]

That's good to know the carbs fit well which gives the option of fitting 10 year younger carbs.
Forgot to ask, is the electrical gubbins on no 4 carb redundant on the gsx?

[katanarider]

Wonderful news !
Thanks for the info Bettyswolloks

[Bettyswolloks]

Well took here part way to work, I can get a lift the other half, and it was faultless
Gunna be doing the whole 50ish mile commute tomorrow so that should show up and issues.

The electrical gubbings, the throttle position sensor, has to be removed to get them in there.

So far so good

[Locomotion]

Are you using the gsx airbox or the k&ns

[Bettyswolloks]

I'm using the KN filters, the airbox just wouldn't fit, the airbox side of the carb is a lot bigger than the 34's

One thing I forgot to mention, the 36's only have one fuel line so one of the outlets on the tank has to be blocked off somehow, all I did was find a bolt big enough to fit inside the petrol pipe to block the end of a small length of pipe, simples!

[Bettyswolloks]

The edge of the filters are right against the top edge of the side panels, which sit just where me knees sit. Around 3/4k rpm the filters start to suck in some big air and actually suck's knees inwards! LoL!!

All Good So Far Still

[katanarider]

If your concerned with fitment, I've got these ebay cone filters on my bike. They fit really well since the cone shape is smaller in diameter. In my opinion they are better because they're independent units/don't share air flow with the neighboring carb. Plus, they seem to allow more air into the diaphragm since they're cone shaped which is better for tune up purposes. They are not cloth like the K&N filters. The fabric is a thin synthetic-man-made material, but it seems really durable. I've pressure washed mine several times and scrubbed them with a thick heavy duty brush. EDIT: Though I don't recommend doing that very often because there is a chance you may rip them. I usually use a tooth brush then submerge them in a 5 gallon bucket of warm soapy water. I know they aren't just going to just fall apart on you. Trust me, I've abused mine for about 6 years with out any complaints !

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4x-52mm-Air-Filter-Pod-For-Suzuki-GSXR-750-1100-750R-KATANA-GSX-1100F-GSX600F-/251699240860?fits=Make%3ASuzuki&hash=item3a9a719f9c:g:A6sAAOxy7nNTT373&vxp=mtr

[Bettyswolloks]

Thanx for that. I'm not bothered about the fitment, they fit well and work really well. I've always used KN filters, if you look after them right they last a lifetime.

[katanarider]

It may be a little much to ask, but can you record video of your Kat-11 running so I can tell if I want pod filters ?
EDIT: I want a GoPro or iPhone handle bar holder so I can record my ride.

[Bettyswolloks]

It may be a little much to ask, but can you record video of your Kat-11 running so I can tell if I want pod filters ?
EDIT: I want a GoPro or iPhone handle bar holder so I can record my ride.

I'll see what I can do for you, just brought my phone into the modern age with a new fangled iPhone thing, still getting used to it so give me a few daze

[katanarider]

Thanks
Its just I've been told by several people that pods filters cause a flat spot in the torque curve..just thought I would ask.