I just bought some carbs for my 1993 600 Katana. It turned out that they are the California model carbs, and I see some extra ports on the bottom. I am wondering what should I do with these ports? Should I just leave them, or should I plug them up? What are they for? Is there any other differences between the Cali and the non-Cali carbs that I should look out for?
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California carbs on non-Cali Pre-98 Kat 600
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You can just put caps on those extra ports. They are for emissions stuff. Also the CA needles are different, they are 5F105, the 49 states are 5F104. And the pilot air jets are different.
Suzuki Katana Carburetor Set Carbs
Were they these ones? I didn't bid on them for that exact reason. Oh, and the vacuum hose from the 4th carb is different. It has a "T" in it, the 49 state ones do not.Last edited by arsenic; 07-03-2011, 07:41 PM.
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So the needles are different part numbers, what's the actual physical difference Chris?
Trying to imagine what they would want with the needle, fatter profile?90% of motorcycle forum members do not have a service manual for their bike.
Originally posted by BadfaerieI love how the most ignorant people I have met are the ones that fling the word "ignorant" around like it's an insult, or poo. Maybe they think it means pooOriginally posted by soulless kaosbut personaly I dont see a point in a 1000 you can get the same power from a properly tuned 600 with less weight and better handeling.
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So the needles have different part numbers but are exactly the same?90% of motorcycle forum members do not have a service manual for their bike.
Originally posted by BadfaerieI love how the most ignorant people I have met are the ones that fling the word "ignorant" around like it's an insult, or poo. Maybe they think it means pooOriginally posted by soulless kaosbut personaly I dont see a point in a 1000 you can get the same power from a properly tuned 600 with less weight and better handeling.
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Originally posted by arsenic View PostWhy would they be exactly the same if they have different part numbers?
You're the carb guy around here, Im just curious as to the difference besides "different part numbers"90% of motorcycle forum members do not have a service manual for their bike.
Originally posted by BadfaerieI love how the most ignorant people I have met are the ones that fling the word "ignorant" around like it's an insult, or poo. Maybe they think it means pooOriginally posted by soulless kaosbut personaly I dont see a point in a 1000 you can get the same power from a properly tuned 600 with less weight and better handeling.
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Originally posted by arsenic View PostSo the taper of the needle obviously makes the mix leaner.
Jerk90% of motorcycle forum members do not have a service manual for their bike.
Originally posted by BadfaerieI love how the most ignorant people I have met are the ones that fling the word "ignorant" around like it's an insult, or poo. Maybe they think it means pooOriginally posted by soulless kaosbut personaly I dont see a point in a 1000 you can get the same power from a properly tuned 600 with less weight and better handeling.
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Originally posted by arsenic View PostYou can just put caps on those extra ports. They are for emissions stuff. Also the CA needles are different, they are 5F105, the 49 states are 5F104. And the pilot air jets are different.
Suzuki Katana Carburetor Set Carbs
Were they these ones? I didn't bid on them for that exact reason. Oh, and the vacuum hose from the 4th carb is different. It has a "T" in it, the 49 state ones do not.
Do I need to convert over the needles and jets and stuff or should it run decent enough the way it is?Roops Photography|facebook|
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Past: 92 Yamaha Seca II -> 04 Kat 600 -> 92 Kat w/gsxr 750 swap -> 01 GSXR 750 -> 03 GSXR 1000
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Originally posted by professorman View PostYes, it was that one. So, I can just plug up the extra ports? Use like JB Weld?
Do I need to convert over the needles and jets and stuff or should it run decent enough the way it is?
I used rubber plug caps from the auto store and just capped over them.
The jets and needles you have can be tuned to work just fine with the bike.
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Modified Swingarm, 5.5 GSXR Rear with 180/55 and 520 Chain, 750 to 600 Tail conversion, more to come. Long Term Project build thread http://katriders.com/vb/showthread.php?t=96736
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Originally posted by Kreylyn View PostI used rubber plug caps from the auto store and just capped over them.
The jets and needles you have can be tuned to work just fine with the bike.
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04 Honda Aquatrax Jetski
Past: 92 Yamaha Seca II -> 04 Kat 600 -> 92 Kat w/gsxr 750 swap -> 01 GSXR 750 -> 03 GSXR 1000
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Originally posted by professorman View PostWhat tuning does it need? I was hoping it would only be a carb sync.
The minor differences can be tuned out by say adding a shim for the needle, might need 1/4 turn more on the a/f screws with the smaller pilot air jet.
These steps would just be part of fine tuning any carbs for a bike though. Not much different than say, if you had installed a jetkit. (adjust the needle, adjust the a/f, etc... )
And yes, a sync will be needed too.
Krey93 750 Kat
Modified Swingarm, 5.5 GSXR Rear with 180/55 and 520 Chain, 750 to 600 Tail conversion, more to come. Long Term Project build thread http://katriders.com/vb/showthread.php?t=96736
"I've done this a thousand times before. What could possibly go wron.... Ooops!"
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Originally posted by Kreylyn View PostThe minor differences can be tuned out by say adding a shim for the needle, might need 1/4 turn more on the a/f screws with the smaller pilot air jet.
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03 GSXR 1000
04 Honda Aquatrax Jetski
Past: 92 Yamaha Seca II -> 04 Kat 600 -> 92 Kat w/gsxr 750 swap -> 01 GSXR 750 -> 03 GSXR 1000
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The pilot air jets and the needles.
The rest should match up between both. Double check the sizes, they are stamped on them.
Krey93 750 Kat
Modified Swingarm, 5.5 GSXR Rear with 180/55 and 520 Chain, 750 to 600 Tail conversion, more to come. Long Term Project build thread http://katriders.com/vb/showthread.php?t=96736
"I've done this a thousand times before. What could possibly go wron.... Ooops!"
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