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  • Katana/GSXR 1100 Starter issues

    I have recently done a lot of work to my pre 750. Most noticably dropping an '86 GSXR 1100 into it. I have done quite a bit to the motor including Carrillo rods, ported head, oversized valves, JE 12:1 pistons, .370 Web Cams, etc...
    My problem is that when I try to turn it over with the starter it can barley turn it over. I have checked to ground, not an issue, swapped the 750 and 1100 starter around, not an issue, and bought a new battery, bigger one but now luck. I took out the plugs to see if it would turn over and it does with no problem, so this leads me to think that my CR is too high for the motor to turn it over.
    Does anybody think that I should just try to retard the exhaust cam a bit? Right now I have them degreed in at 107 intake and 109 exhaust.
    1996 Suzuki Katana 750
    Gixxer 1100 (141.6hp at the wheel)
    '08 Hayabusa Front End Swap

  • #2
    Tried bumping it?
    90% of motorcycle forum members do not have a service manual for their bike.

    Originally posted by Badfaerie
    I love how the most ignorant people I have met are the ones that fling the word "ignorant" around like it's an insult, or poo. Maybe they think it means poo
    Originally posted by soulless kaos
    but personaly I dont see a point in a 1000 you can get the same power from a properly tuned 600 with less weight and better handeling.

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    • #3
      try it see if it works
      cr will mess with you if you dont get it rite

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      • #4
        The problem is the same I deal with when I build big GS motors for people. Call me at 714-356-7845 tomorrow & I will tell you what is happening & how to FIX it. Ray.
        85GS1150E 83GS1100SD 83GS1100ES 82GS1000SZ 96GSXR1500DRAGBIKE 96GSXR1400DRAGBIKE 90GSXR1166DRAGBIKE 05SDG110PITBIKE & 8 QUADS!!! "Life is tough! It's even tougher when you're stupid!" John Wayne

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        • #5
          Originally posted by suzukiray View Post
          The problem is the same I deal with when I build big GS motors for people. Call me at 714-356-7845 tomorrow & I will tell you what is happening & how to FIX it. Ray.
          no fair, i cry foul!!!! tell the rest of us too please.
          99% of the questions asked here can be answered by a 2 minute search in the service manual. Get a service manual, USE IT.
          1990 Suzuki GSX750F Katana
          '53 Ford F250 pickumuptruck
          Lookin for a new Enduro project

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          • #6
            My # is right there, you can call me as easily as anyone else. If you can type, you can make a phone call! Ray.
            85GS1150E 83GS1100SD 83GS1100ES 82GS1000SZ 96GSXR1500DRAGBIKE 96GSXR1400DRAGBIKE 90GSXR1166DRAGBIKE 05SDG110PITBIKE & 8 QUADS!!! "Life is tough! It's even tougher when you're stupid!" John Wayne

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            • #7
              No one has called me. Does that mean no one wants to know? Ray.
              85GS1150E 83GS1100SD 83GS1100ES 82GS1000SZ 96GSXR1500DRAGBIKE 96GSXR1400DRAGBIKE 90GSXR1166DRAGBIKE 05SDG110PITBIKE & 8 QUADS!!! "Life is tough! It's even tougher when you're stupid!" John Wayne

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              • #8
                why cant you post it in the forum? u can call me and tell me why 1-800 topsecret

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                • #9
                  When you get some HORSEPOWER call me & I'll tell you. Ray.
                  85GS1150E 83GS1100SD 83GS1100ES 82GS1000SZ 96GSXR1500DRAGBIKE 96GSXR1400DRAGBIKE 90GSXR1166DRAGBIKE 05SDG110PITBIKE & 8 QUADS!!! "Life is tough! It's even tougher when you're stupid!" John Wayne

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                  • #10
                    give me a call Suzuki ray and tell me why

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                    • #11
                      Well I have solved the problem. A small piece of wisdom I wish to pass on is this: a pre 750 Katana altenator gear is not the same as a '86 GSXR 1100 gear.

                      What happened was that when I put the altenator in the gears didn't mesh up and caused massive binding issues. As soon as I fixed that the motor started right up on the first try.

                      She is going to be a beast thats for sure, definately think I might loose my license with this motor...lol. if you want to check out some pics I will post them in my Garage.
                      1996 Suzuki Katana 750
                      Gixxer 1100 (141.6hp at the wheel)
                      '08 Hayabusa Front End Swap

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Superloki24 View Post
                        Well I have solved the problem. A small piece of wisdom I wish to pass on is this: a pre 750 Katana altenator gear is not the same as a '86 GSXR 1100 gear.

                        What happened was that when I put the altenator in the gears didn't mesh up and caused massive binding issues. As soon as I fixed that the motor started right up on the first try.

                        She is going to be a beast thats for sure, definately think I might loose my license with this motor...lol. if you want to check out some pics I will post them in my Garage.

                        Waiting on those photes...

                        Krey
                        93 750 Kat



                        Modified Swingarm, 5.5 GSXR Rear with 180/55 and 520 Chain, 750 to 600 Tail conversion, more to come. Long Term Project build thread http://katriders.com/vb/showthread.php?t=96736

                        "I've done this a thousand times before. What could possibly go wron.... Ooops!"

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                        • #13
                          thank god for suzuki ray

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by waffenampt View Post
                            thank god for suzuki ray
                            Like YOU were a big help $hit 4 brains! Anyone ever needs to know how to get a high compression motor to "push button" start with a stock starter just let me know & I will tell you. Ray.
                            85GS1150E 83GS1100SD 83GS1100ES 82GS1000SZ 96GSXR1500DRAGBIKE 96GSXR1400DRAGBIKE 90GSXR1166DRAGBIKE 05SDG110PITBIKE & 8 QUADS!!! "Life is tough! It's even tougher when you're stupid!" John Wayne

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                            • #15
                              hey Ray how do you get a high compression motor to start with the electric push button with the stock starter bigger battery?

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