Hey guys so I like the dummy I am soaked my carbs in simple green for a week not thinking of it was acidic and they came out white. I tried a bunch of cleaners nothing really seems to get it off. Do you think it would matter if I put them in the bike like that. It looks shitty but I mean once it’s wet it disappears. I wonder if by puttting them on the bike it’ll in turn clean them? Or just screw up everything I was trying to accomplish by cleaning them
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Originally posted by wfrpalm View PostYou could try wiping them down with WD-40 and fine steel wool.
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Get you some berrymans chem dip-Steve
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Okay, so I'm not writing up a paper here, so I'm gonna be very generalized in the info presented here. Research the info (google it) if you want more specific details.
First, simple green is avg ph of 9.3-9.5. That's an alkaline, not acidic.
Second, the white is aluminum oxidization. The carb metal is breaking down. It's not water soluble, which is why it doesn't just scrub off.
Aluminum and it's alloys naturally for a oxidization layer that will protect and reduce additional oxidization from occurring in a PH range of 4.5-8. Over that, or under that, and it's gonna break down fast.
Aluminum is porous.
So the simple of it... your aluminum carb bodies has the alkaline still in the pores of the metal, and it's break it down quickly. You need to offset that and bring the PH down. I'd suggest a very mild acid in the ph range of around 5.5 -6ph.
That will also probably remove the oxidization also. You can use a metal sealer spray after that to help reduce any further issues, but if you balance out the PH again, it shouldn't be as necessary.
If the lower ph does not remove the oxidization, you can do that easily with an abrasive mechanical removal process, like blasting the bodies.
Berryman's will actually make it worse, as it's PH is in the 10-11ph range. It's more alkaline than the simple green.
Hope that helps... and good luck.
Krey93 750 Kat
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Originally posted by Kreylyn View PostOkay, so I'm not writing up a paper here, so I'm gonna be very generalized in the info presented here. Research the info (google it) if you want more specific details.
First, simple green is avg ph of 9.3-9.5. That's an alkaline, not acidic.
Second, the white is aluminum oxidization. The carb metal is breaking down. It's not water soluble, which is why it doesn't just scrub off.
Aluminum and it's alloys naturally for a oxidization layer that will protect and reduce additional oxidization from occurring in a PH range of 4.5-8. Over that, or under that, and it's gonna break down fast.
Aluminum is porous.
So the simple of it... your aluminum carb bodies has the alkaline still in the pores of the metal, and it's break it down quickly. You need to offset that and bring the PH down. I'd suggest a very mild acid in the ph range of around 5.5 -6ph.
That will also probably remove the oxidization also. You can use a metal sealer spray after that to help reduce any further issues, but if you balance out the PH again, it shouldn't be as necessary.
If the lower ph does not remove the oxidization, you can do that easily with an abrasive mechanical removal process, like blasting the bodies.
Berryman's will actually make it worse, as it's PH is in the 10-11ph range. It's more alkaline than the simple green.
Hope that helps... and good luck.
Krey
I did read ultrasonic cleaners helped know anything about those? Or I may need something more powerful if the ph doesn’t balance out?
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