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    Hey guys so I like the dummy I am soaked my carbs in simple green for a week not thinking of it was acidic and they came out white. I tried a bunch of cleaners nothing really seems to get it off. Do you think it would matter if I put them in the bike like that. It looks shitty but I mean once itís wet it disappears. I wonder if by puttting them on the bike itíll in turn clean them? Or just screw up everything I was trying to accomplish by cleaning them


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    Last edited by Kreylyn; 07-02-2019, 06:41 PM.

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    • #3
      You could try wiping them down with WD-40 and fine steel wool.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by wfrpalm View Post
        You could try wiping them down with WD-40 and fine steel wool.
        I did wd40 and a tooth brush because I didnít wanna do anything abrasive. I think I heard that was a no no. But even that it worked for about a bit but I was in the process of moving so I forgot about them for a month and when I went to go finish them the white had came back.

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        • #5
          Get you some berrymans chem dip
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            I polished my float bowls. Came out nice. Little bit of polish might make them shine.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by steves View Post
              Get you some berrymans chem dip
              i did lol that was what I tried after the simple green. Stuffs stubborn and just doesnít wanna come off

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ChandlerW View Post
                I polished my float bowls. Came out nice. Little bit of polish might make them shine.
                I feel like it would have the same outcome as the wd40. Look good for like a few weeks then it comes back. Iíll givr it a shot tho! Iím up to try anything

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                • #9
                  Okay, so I'm not writing up a paper here, so I'm gonna be very generalized in the info presented here. Research the info (google it) if you want more specific details.

                  First, simple green is avg ph of 9.3-9.5. That's an alkaline, not acidic.

                  Second, the white is aluminum oxidization. The carb metal is breaking down. It's not water soluble, which is why it doesn't just scrub off.

                  Aluminum and it's alloys naturally for a oxidization layer that will protect and reduce additional oxidization from occurring in a PH range of 4.5-8. Over that, or under that, and it's gonna break down fast.

                  Aluminum is porous.

                  So the simple of it... your aluminum carb bodies has the alkaline still in the pores of the metal, and it's break it down quickly. You need to offset that and bring the PH down. I'd suggest a very mild acid in the ph range of around 5.5 -6ph.

                  That will also probably remove the oxidization also. You can use a metal sealer spray after that to help reduce any further issues, but if you balance out the PH again, it shouldn't be as necessary.

                  If the lower ph does not remove the oxidization, you can do that easily with an abrasive mechanical removal process, like blasting the bodies.

                  Berryman's will actually make it worse, as it's PH is in the 10-11ph range. It's more alkaline than the simple green.

                  Hope that helps... and good luck.

                  Krey
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kreylyn View Post
                    Okay, so I'm not writing up a paper here, so I'm gonna be very generalized in the info presented here. Research the info (google it) if you want more specific details.

                    First, simple green is avg ph of 9.3-9.5. That's an alkaline, not acidic.

                    Second, the white is aluminum oxidization. The carb metal is breaking down. It's not water soluble, which is why it doesn't just scrub off.

                    Aluminum and it's alloys naturally for a oxidization layer that will protect and reduce additional oxidization from occurring in a PH range of 4.5-8. Over that, or under that, and it's gonna break down fast.

                    Aluminum is porous.

                    So the simple of it... your aluminum carb bodies has the alkaline still in the pores of the metal, and it's break it down quickly. You need to offset that and bring the PH down. I'd suggest a very mild acid in the ph range of around 5.5 -6ph.

                    That will also probably remove the oxidization also. You can use a metal sealer spray after that to help reduce any further issues, but if you balance out the PH again, it shouldn't be as necessary.

                    If the lower ph does not remove the oxidization, you can do that easily with an abrasive mechanical removal process, like blasting the bodies.

                    Berryman's will actually make it worse, as it's PH is in the 10-11ph range. It's more alkaline than the simple green.

                    Hope that helps... and good luck.

                    Krey
                    Thank you that makes complete sense! Yea I did the chem dip after the simple green not knowing it was worse. Guess itís time to take them apart again! I appreciate your reply.

                    I did read ultrasonic cleaners helped know anything about those? Or I may need something more powerful if the ph doesnít balance out?

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