Hydraulic clutch for pre 600?

[Islandsteve]

Instead of buying a new clutch cable I'm just going to go hydraulic. I'm pretty sure I've seen peoples pre 600's with hydraulic clutches from gsxr's or something..anyways can this be done and what setup will I need? Like what master and what hydraulic line and I imagine they include some sort of actuating mechanism for the clutch. Any inomation on the subject would be appreciated.

Thx

[mreedohio]

be prepared to modify the shifter because if its like when putting a b12 or 1127 in a pre, the shifter is way forward

[Islandsteve]

EDIT: K I'm reading my manual. Duh.... And It looks like the earlier gsxr's clutch master and slave cylinders will work and the brake hose too. I'm
wondering will I need the gsx-r sprocket cover too to accept the slave cylinder?? Whos allready done this???

be prepared to modify the shifter because if its like when putting a b12 or 1127 in a pre, the shifter is way forward

what do you mean mreedohio? Wouldn't the shifter stay in place or will the new post for the shifter foot lever on the new sprocket cover be in a differant place?

[mreedohio]

heres what i mean, i ran into this same problem when doing the 1127 in my pre so i went the easy route and did the manual clutch.

http://katriders.com/vb/showpost.php?p=1621791&postcount=11

[Islandsteve]

Ah I see. In my Clymer manual I have in front of me (covers kat600 1988-1993 and gsx-r750-1100 1986-1987) and the sprocket cover on the gsx-r has a post mounted to it, and it's hard to tell since it's a 2"x2" picture, but it looks the same dimensions as on my pre. It just might work.

If only there was someone on here who could measure the distance between their shifter post and actual shifter rod so I can compare. Do you know of anybody here with a gsx-r 86-87

[mreedohio]

http://katriders.com/vb/showpost.php...0&postcount=51 this could help

[damic]

If only there was someone on here who could measure the distance between their shifter post and actual shifter rod so I can compare. Do you know of anybody here with a gsx-r 86-87

I have an 87 GSXR 750 that I'm fightering and yes it has the shifter post on it. What it doesn't have is the speedo sensor that the post 98 kats(that's what I also have) have and most threads that I've read about this conversion have to do with guys wanting to change these years.
There best bet was to use a bandit 12 cover which has the sensor but no post then modify it to add the post on.
The pre 98s have a speedo pickup on thr front wheel so that is no problem

[Islandsteve]

I have an 87 GSXR 750 that I'm fightering and yes it has the shifter post on it. What it doesn't have is the speedo sensor that the post 98 kats(that's what I also have) have and most threads that I've read about this conversion have to do with guys wanting to change these years.
There best bet was to use a bandit 12 cover which has the sensor but no post then modify it to add the post on.
The pre 98s have a speedo pickup on thr front wheel so that is no problem

Awesome. Thanks for the info. I wonder if the bolt position is the same. Does your sprocket cover have 6 bolts?

Good link mreedohio

[damic]

The only thing that might be different is the actuator rod length. Unfortunately I lost the one I had so I cannot tell you off hand what the length is.

[ckholloway]

I did this mod to my 600 late last year. You need a mid to early gix1100 sprocket cover and slave, I used a genI busa master/lever assembly with the busa hose and it all worked great. The only 2 things you need to do is,
1-take a little bit off the cover back by the peg or it won't sit flush (I can't tell you how much because I just started taking a little off at a time until it was right)
2-you will need the push rod from the 1100 if I am not mistaken and cut it down just a little at a time until it's the right length, or you can just make a new push rod like I did out of a screw driver shaft that is the right diameter.

[loudnlow7484]

It strikes me when I had my 86 GSXR750, that people were taking off the hydraulic clutch in favor of a cable setup. I guess it's personal preference.

[steves]

Cable clutches are considered more reliable by racers and long distance tourers. The reason being that if a hydro clutch line leaks, or the fluid goes bad... you are stuck needing new fluid and very specialized tools.

With a cable clutch... you whip a new one out of your pack install it with basic tools, and get on your way.

Their are benefits and drawbacks to both.

[ckholloway]

I myself prefer the hydraulic because for
1- I am not a racer
2- if you maintain your machine and check thing like you should there should never be a problem

Now I know that **** happens but the same thing can happen with your cable clutch. What do you do when you are in the middle of nowhere and you break a cable and you don't have a spare with you (not everyone carries a spare bike in there back pack I know I don't, I try to trust my machine) and there are no dealers close. You are in the same mess either way.

[nealy212]

hmm this sounds like an upgrade i might like to do,, should really post a how to on this one.

[ckholloway]

I didn't think about it when I did mine or I would have. When I get home tonight I will post a picture of the sprocket cover. I don't have the picture on my computer here at work.