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Old 04-30-2006, 08:47 PM   #1
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Default Any way to improve the brake performance for an 05 Kat 750?

Been reading through the posts trying to find just some simple suggestions as to improve the braking performance of the Kat...

would appreciate a point in the right direction for parts...snafus and approximate cost and the kind of improvements from the investment.


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Old 04-30-2006, 09:08 PM   #2
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HH pads and new brake fluid Cyber tends to recommmend Castrol GT LMA, or Valvoline PowerSynth .

I couldn't find the castrol and went with valvoline with new HH pads. Did a stoppie doing some panic stops in an empty lot .

You could add Stainless steel brake lines, but with an 05 your lines are really still good for 3 more years so it's a judgement call on your part. (Suzuki recommends changin lines every 4 years)
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Woobie beat me to the punch and pretty much said everything I was going to say.

SpeedBleeders (makes flushing more painless)
EBC HH pads up front
for an '05 that should do it.

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Old 05-01-2006, 12:27 AM   #4
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My setup was about $1000US...maybe a little less, 'cause I bought a braided blue clutch line to match the brake lines :P

Galfer wave rotors X3
Galfer blue braided lines (2line kit - no splitter)
Galfer green pads
speed bleeders X4

The majority of the cost was in the rotors. With our group buy, I got the front rotors for about $500, and the rear was around $100-ish. Over at Cyclebrakes.com, braided line kits are actually very affordable, at about $75 for the front lines. Pads depend on compound and brand.
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Old 05-01-2006, 12:44 AM   #5
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I read on here somewhere about putting GSXR master cylinders I think that is for both front and rear
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I read on here somewhere about putting GSXR master cylinders I think that is for both front and rear
Rear master cylinders are the same as far as I know from the
GS500 to the 'busa..

I run an 04 GSXR600 front MC..
Well worth the $35 I paid

My suggestions:

Castrol LMA fluid (Dennis Kirk dot com $3-4/ bottle.
superior in it's clarity, as well as working better IMO..
I've run it back to back with generic fluid)

Stainless steel lines (you are not due for new lines yet.. but
with SS line you never will be. Braided line offer more
power transmision and better feel)

Maintenance (keep the calipers clean, bled, and guide pins lubed)
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Stainless steel lines (you are not due for new lines yet.. but with SS line you never will be.
That's a falacy... SS lines still have rubber hose inside and rubber still loses it's VOC's over time, so even SS lines have to be replaced with age.

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Stainless steel lines (you are not due for new lines yet.. but with SS line you never will be.
That's a falacy... SS lines still have rubber hose inside and rubber still loses it's VOC's over time, so even SS lines have to be replaced with age.

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Mine are teflon.. and have a lifetime warrenty..
So while I may have to replace them..... someday
I won't be spending $75 for hoses..
Especially not every 5 years
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Just the HH pads did wonders on MY old bike . Brake lines are probably OE , so like 13 years old . But the new brake fluid ALSO did quite a bit . So I'd START with the HH's , Speddbleedrs , and new fluid . Should make you go "whoa" when you grab a fistful of brake .
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Mine are teflon.. and have a lifetime warrenty..
Teflon lined, not teflon thru-and-thru.
And you'll probably never use the lifetime warrantee, because by the time they breach, you'll have already replaced them (preventative maint), traded to a new bike or crapped your pants AND found out you can't find the receipt.

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