suspension - Page 2

cintidude04 · 03-20-2012, 11:23 PM

If your suspension is stock, then there is alot wrong with your suspension

Nofear6677 · 03-21-2012, 05:14 PM

Lol. I meant that there isn't anything broken.

Jcates888 · 03-22-2012, 11:57 AM

What is wrong with stock suspension? How would better suspension change my ride?

Pugga · 03-22-2012, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cintidude04

If your suspension is stock, then there is alot wrong with your suspension

I don't understand your statement... I'm sure there is lots of room for improvement over the stock suspension but what's wrong with it for the everyday rider?

**steves** · 03-22-2012, 12:15 PM

The katana stock suspension is set up for about a 150lb neutral position rider.

Very few people will fit that exact category with gear on, and there's not enough adjustment in the stock suspension to adjust it.

cintidude04 · 03-22-2012, 12:20 PM

The suspension was made for a 160 lbs rider at best. And with the 10 years of wear an tear the OP's suspension has, I doubt it would be good for a rider of that weight anymore.

scottynoface · 03-22-2012, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pugga

but what's wrong with it for the everyday rider?

It's total crap

Kreylyn · 03-22-2012, 12:49 PM

The front forks has weak springs for the rider weights. No adjustablility, what they make you think is adjustable doesn't work for crap.

The rear shock is also under sprung generally for the rider weight, the rebound is non-existant, and again... no adjustability unless you have the 750 and on those... again what they make you think is adjustable doesn't work for crap.

On a pre kat it is very likely the rear shock stopped working as a shock long ago...

For example, lots of people on stock suspensions talk about "scraping pegs" on the curves... that's a direct example of a poor suspenion. The rear isn't rebounding enough through the curves and droppes the rear as you go... eventually making for a sluggish response and scraping pegs/exhaust on the ground because the rear isn't rebounding approprioately. This leaves you also with a situation where the damping is comprimised because the shock is already half compressed.

Hands down, an improved suspension makes the bikes a completely different ride and extreamly more enjoyable.

Krey

Pugga · 03-22-2012, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottynoface

It's total crap

Care to elaborate or just going with the blanket statement that it sucks...

For a commuter, I didn't think it was THAT bad. Once you start laying it into corners there is a lot of room for improvement but for a relatively inexpensive sport-style bike I didn't think the suspension was terrible. I guess I've never been on a bike with the suspension set up for me though either...

05RedKat600 · 03-22-2012, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pugga

Care to elaborate or just going with the blanket statement that it sucks...

For a commuter, I didn't think it was THAT bad. Once you start laying it into corners there is a lot of room for improvement but for a relatively inexpensive sport-style bike I didn't think the suspension was terrible. I guess I've never been on a bike with the suspension set up for me though either...

What do you weigh? That has a lot to do with it also.

03-20-2012, 11:23 PM	#11
cintidude04 Kat Legend Supporting Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vagabond Posts: 5,501 iTrader: (24) My Garage eBay ID: cintidude04	If your suspension is stock, then there is alot wrong with your suspension __________________ DISCLAIMER-Everything I say is my personal opinion and should be considered fact. "...have you checked out my build thread? cheapest thing I've done to my bike was buy it ..." http://katriders.com/vb/showthread.php?t=111130 www.lunchtimecigar.com

03-22-2012, 12:15 PM	#15
steves Argh Supporting Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 19403 Posts: 28,100 iTrader: (18) My Garage	The katana stock suspension is set up for about a 150lb neutral position rider. Very few people will fit that exact category with gear on, and there's not enough adjustment in the stock suspension to adjust it. __________________ -Steve Welcome to KatRiders.com! Click here to register Don't forget to check the Wiki! http://katriders.com/wiki Help Support Katriders.com via Motorcyclegear.com

03-22-2012, 12:49 PM	#18
Kreylyn Kat Master Supporting Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Weaverville, NC Posts: 12,442 iTrader: (23) My Garage eBay ID: Kreylyn	The front forks has weak springs for the rider weights. No adjustablility, what they make you think is adjustable doesn't work for crap. The rear shock is also under sprung generally for the rider weight, the rebound is non-existant, and again... no adjustability unless you have the 750 and on those... again what they make you think is adjustable doesn't work for crap. On a pre kat it is very likely the rear shock stopped working as a shock long ago... For example, lots of people on stock suspensions talk about "scraping pegs" on the curves... that's a direct example of a poor suspenion. The rear isn't rebounding enough through the curves and droppes the rear as you go... eventually making for a sluggish response and scraping pegs/exhaust on the ground because the rear isn't rebounding approprioately. This leaves you also with a situation where the damping is comprimised because the shock is already half compressed. Hands down, an improved suspension makes the bikes a completely different ride and extreamly more enjoyable. Krey __________________ 93 750 Kat Modified Swingarm, 5.5 GSXR Rear with 180/55 and 520 Chain, 750 to 600 Tail conversion, more to come. Long Term Project build thread http://katriders.com/vb/showthread.php?t=96736 "I've done this a thousand times before. What could possibly go wron.... Ooops!"

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03-21-2012, 05:14 PM	#12
Nofear6677 Poser Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Kildare, Texas Posts: 68 iTrader: (1) My Garage	Lol. I meant that there isn't anything broken.

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cintidude04 Kat Legend Supporting Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vagabond Posts: 5,501 iTrader: (24) My Garage eBay ID: cintidude04	The suspension was made for a 160 lbs rider at best. And with the 10 years of wear an tear the OP's suspension has, I doubt it would be good for a rider of that weight anymore.