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    In terms of gauges, about the only downside to Street Fighting a Katana is the fact the speedo on pre 98's is cable driven. This limits the amount you can move the speedo around and how neatly you can package them.
    Upside is since they are standard self contained units you can remount them easily. All in ones like late model GSX-Rs not only can't easily be separated they incorporate slick trim pieces that have to be reproduced.
    You can try and fit a GSX-R package. "We" have been waiting for years for someone to give it a try. You could also try and pick up old Bandit gauges or gauge mounts. They were too spendy for me. Another idea I looked at was old (80's) gauge packages and install the Kat parts. This will most likely work. Then you have a nice package and if they are fork mounted an easy way to do it.

    I have AutoCAD. Lucky me. First I reproduced the faces and arranged them in a pleasing way.

    Since I was working in full scale in AutoCAD I was them able to print out the drawing, transfer it to my material and get to work. This version I made in just a few hours. (I don't have any photos) I hated it. But I rode with it for a few months. One of the suggestions I strongly make is to not rush with a SF mod. The time you spend thinking on it or just sitting, looking at the bike pay off in only doing the mod once.
    So the second version fixed all the things I hated about the first one but caused more problems. One of the things I was trying to keep was the way the gauges and headlight were mounted to the frame, not the forks. I thought it was cool the way the bars moved but the dash didn't. I just couldn't resolve the two styles..


    This last version cad drawing show what I was able to do; After settling on the style and arrangement (I blocked out the areas where cables etc were, sorry that isn't shown) based on available space. I used a GSX-R dash as influence. I liked how the GSX-R dash made the Speedo look like an after thought.

    I then sectioned out the different parts. I also knew where the mounting points were and laid out the mounting rods. I could then move these parts out of the assembly and lay them out.





    I found the easiest way to layout is to cut out the full sized paper pattern and tape it to the plastic. Then trace it with a sharpie marker. I cut out the parts using a regular wood coping saw. The material is Polypropylene but Lexan would cut just as easily and actually sand, file better. Polypro is soft and "hairs" (think about cheese VS wood). Lexan is readily available at Home Depot, I used Polypro because I got it free.. To bend the mounting rods, I printed the the drawing full scale and just bent the rods until they matched the drawing. Everything fit first try. The only difference to this photo and the current one is that once I wired in the LEDs I was able to get rid of the "light box" and push the dash up to the top tree. I think I'm most happy with this version. I think the only change I may make is swapping the gas gauge for a temp gauge or clock. (either one 10X more useful than the gas gauge.)

    Not shown is the back. What a pain. I finally molded a cover, it came out terrible but the theory is sound, I just needed to learn a few lessons. I printed out a pattern of the whole dash then transfered it to a thick block of Styrofoam (mistake 1) I cut the foam to the outline and made it just as thick as the Speedo/Tach. I wrapped it in plastic shopping bags (mistake 2) and hand laid fiberglas over it. Bagged it again (so the fiberglas was "tight" and let it set up. Well mistake 1&2 meant that the epoxy leeched through the bag and shrunk the foam. This made the resulting part odd shaped and slightly too small. After sanding and trimming it, I punched holes in it to line up with the screw studs on the rear of the speedo /tach. This mounted the rear cover with a few nuts. A little RTV to seal it to the gauges plate and while it looks OK it's not as nice as it could have been had I not made the mistakes with the foam. All the wires and gauges are as protected from debris and water as they were in the OEM set up. Plus all the wires are covered up. Here are some notations to explain it all.


    I hope this gives you some tips on makeing your own gauges. Feel free to copy mine but remember I was first!
    Last edited by Black_peter; 05-11-2009, 02:40 PM.

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    That looks a nice setup but it does remind me of the later watercooled gsxr clocks, nothing wrong with that but it seems a lot of effort to produce something that is very similar to what could be bought from any breakers

    ive used bandit clocks gsxr slingshot clocks & 750/1100 wp clocks btw all of which have a cable driven speedo & the tacho easilly wires up too
    Renthals & twin spots do not make a streetfighter !

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    • #3
      Similar? Maybe..
      The same? no way. That's what it's about for me.. I made it. Buy whatever you like.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Black_peter View Post
        Similar? Maybe..
        The same? no way. That's what it's about for me.. I made it. Buy whatever you like.
        I understand that sentiment fella i make everything i posibly can for my own bikes & do all the work myself i buy very little my point was if i was going to make a setup like that i'd make it different to everything else

        still its good work & i like it all the same
        Renthals & twin spots do not make a streetfighter !

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        • #5
          I used just some aluminum stock from the Bauhaus, then ground the edges to make it look decent, then used the bolts at the bottom of my gauge panel. I mounted the other end of the supports to the bottom of my top triple tree. The stock gauge panel matched the curve of my fly screen perfectly. I have a MotoGP style all digital gauge panel, just haven't had the money to have it installed.
          2006 Triumph Sprint ST
          2000 Katana 750 Streetfighter

          Keep it rubber side down and your knees in the breeze.

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          • #6
            Nice job and a way to make a custom setup! I'm deciding whether to replace or to improvise on my setup as I bought a used bike that had the gauges wrecked in a crash.

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            • #7
              Drunk Uncle,
              Could you post a pic or email me a pic of how you did yours? I am going with that approach on my '06 and all the gauges are electronic (speedo, tach). I would appreciate any lessons learned in the process. How thick was the aluminum that you used? Any fatigue cracking on it? I am putting a cafe racer fairing on over mine. Thanks

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              • #8
                just wondering if you have any more pics they arent coming up for me to see and im really interested in seeing what you did exactly.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by joshr08 View Post
                  just wondering if you have any more pics they arent coming up for me to see and im really interested in seeing what you did exactly.

                  Yeah... I don't like public photo servers.. No matter what people say.

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                  • #10
                    I was going to say something but since I'm at work some public photo sites won't show here due to the firewall...so I wouldn't be able to see the pictures...now I can and yep looks like what I asked Josh to take a look at...nice pics BP!!! Great Job!!
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                    • #11
                      I stopped being able to upload photos and then it seems my photos have disappeared..

                      Meanwhile I have photo's on my old ISP server that have been there for 3 years..
                      3 years after canceling service that is...

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                      • #12
                        Thanks Black_Peter for the idea. That's just like what I want to do.
                        Are we riding yet?

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                        • #13
                          nice!

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                          • #14
                            Is the fuel guage from a pre-750?



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                            • #15
                              I'm in the works of my 2000 street fighter but need to be as cheap as possible, would it be possible to use the stock cluster and just fab a mount to bolt to the bottom of the upper triple tree? I really dont wanna take that cluster apart
                              "If you aint first, you're last"

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