Ive heard on a number of occasions of second gear getting blown out on Kat 750s and 600s in the past. A buddy of mine with a 96 600 just blew out second on his. He rides pretty aggressive but not abusive,the bike was used when he got it but with only 9000 miles on it so who knows what the origional owner did to it . Just wondering is this an ongoing problem?
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IMHO: It's rider abuse. Get up to 80, 90 mph, start coasting, then around 60, pull in the clutch and because there's a red light in the distance, start downshifting 6-5--4-3-2-N. By the time it gets to 2nd you might be down to 50 mph (just rolling along) -- that's too much backlash on the gears because the engine is at idle, even if the clutch never engages. Slamming 1st-2nd under high throttle with no clutch also tends to help it along. As does shifting really slowly (or incompletely) 1-N-2, letting the gears dance off each other (a common newbie mistake for people used to shifting cars gently because of the planetary gears).
Cheers,
=-= The CyberPoet
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As I recall reading about this problem, its also because the change in gearing from 1st to 2nd is numerically greater than a gear change from 2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 4th, etc. So 2nd gear gets the most shock of all the gears. Ist gear shock from a standing start is absorbed a lot by the clutch. And people just don't have that many opportunities to really hammer it into 5th or 6th. You'd be doing way over 120 mph. All from my recollection only.
As for backlash? So the gears are meant to absorb greater shock from acceleration, but not from deceleration I guess.
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also make sure your bike warmed up properly before you go out. Making sure the oil is flowing throughout the engine will help in the longevity of your bike. If the bike is cold then it will be a little more clunkish.R.I.P. Jason you will be missed.
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Originally posted by harryeAs for backlash? So the gears are meant to absorb greater shock from acceleration, but not from deceleration I guess.
Example 1: engine at 6k rpm, switch 2nd to 3rd without changing RPM's, you're still only about 1200 RPM off of where it should be for an ideal mating. Ditto on a fast downshift with gear engagement at each gear.
Example 2: But if you're doing 6k in 6th and you start clicking down all the way to neutral quickly without waiting for the speed to drop (without using any engine braking nor disengaging the clutch at each gear), by the time you get to 2nd gear the ideal matching speed would be around or beyond the redline of the bike -- with the RPM's having dropped to idle by now. And that difference in gear speeds has to go somewhere. The speed difference in our last case is what I think tends to eat up the teeth and bend or break the outer edges of the gear faces as it tries to mate (mechanically, the two common reasons 2nd is bad are bad teeth and/or bent shift-forks; bent shift forks come from forcing it together under strain normally).
Cheers,
=-= The CyberPoet
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