I think it's also a matter of the right equipment, right venue, right time. What we tend to object to is guys (and girls) stunting on public streets in regular traffic, wearing a lack of sufficient protective clothing (shorts & a tshirt?), on a bike that is not designed to take the stresses and wear of stunting (such a Katana). Among other things, such behavior gives riders as a whole (including those who don't stunt -- which is 95% of the rider community) a bad rep among the public and often drives up insurance prices (fixing accident damages), theft rates (getting repair parts free), plus makes the politicians add more and more restrictive laws on us. Given that, we tend not to support it wholeheartedly...

If you show these guys stunt vids on closed off courses (tracks, disused runways, private parking lots), people using suitable protective equipment, using bikes that are well-suited to the endeavor, you tend to find lots of support, lots of good comments, etc. here and elsewhere.

Cheers
=-= The CyberPoet

I completely agree with CP. I have no problem with guys who take their stunting seriously, and only do it in closed areas where joe public can't have reason to complain. Hell, I don't even mind seeing a buddy or two pick up the front end cresting a hill while riding hard through a twisty section in the country (though that's hardly stunting). What I DON'T like to see is guys doing stupid things in the city, on the highways, etc.....If there's cages around, it's just not the place to be doing that, due to the increased chance of an accident, and severity of that accident.

Two of our local guys recently were invited to join the Ruff Ryders...One guy used to ride with Canadian Chaos, and he's absolutely amazing....we call him "The Scott Show", and I wouldn't be surprised if he starts showing up in a few of those crazy competitions and streetbike vids.

Everything he just said.

also every one here that has riden for years not new riders have done there little thing im sure. but keep in mind this is a kat rider club. not a stunt club. we ride sprot cruisers not super sports. i my self am guilty of stunts and speeding every where. but this is not a forum for it. so you will have every oppinion from both sides. what do you ride?

Riding motorcycle is like any other sport; one can take it to the extreme. You don't bunjee jump frm a sky skraper in a city, or sky dive in the central of the city- DO YOU?!. It is all about the safty of other people. If one wants to take a risk, then one should not force people to take the same risk.
Speeding and stunting in a closed parking lot, or on a track is always better for everyone.

There isnt much difference between the city and country.. So you think you can let it all hang out in the country, and not in the city....Let me tell you, I live in the country, and there is tons of traffic all over. Not to mention omish buggies, horse riders etc..... So how come no-one bitches about riding like your at a track in the country, but everyone has an orgasm when someone posts about a wheelie. I ride hard too, but to say riding hard in the country is ok, but pulling wheelies anywhere is bad is retarded.

Im one the fence on this one. But I will say certain people on here can post about their wheelies they ulled, and even post pics, and nothing is hardly said. But someone else do it and its war!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I remember right I watched a tankcam of some on here and he popped a wheelie, but nothing was ever said. HUMMMMMMMMMMM!?!?!

Lighten up. If people want to "yank" it up in rush hour traffic, oh well. If they wanna post it up oh well. Its their life, and to bitch at them, or to preach at them is silly. Face it wheelies are a part of motorcycling, as is leaning!!


My .02$

Although I agree, my state legislature doesn't seem to (it's illegal on public roads in Florida to ride a motorcycle with only one wheel on the ground). And I don't want them to become even more disagreeable to my motorcycling choices in the future.

Cheers,
=-= The CyberPoet

I agree with EVERYONE if you like it do it do it. I grab a wheelie every now and then well i did when had a bike ha ha anyway ride your ride do wht you want but be sensible and safe!!!!

Speeding is a fact of life...you'll never get rid of it. People speed in their cars, on their bikes, heck even mopeds through the neighborhoods. But IMHO when you stunt, you diliberatly put your bike in an uncontrollable state and try to control it...that's what stunting is all about. THAT is what should be kept off the public streets. I love to watch stunting, in the right environment.

CP pretty much summed it up for most of us. As long as it doesn't lead to any finger pointing towards the rest of us, many of us don't care what you do. keep the general public safe from the antics of stunting, and all is fine. personally i don't take it as far as him...as in make sure you have all the proper safety equipment. that is not a public safety issue...it is a personally safety issue. and when it comes to that, i feel that is a choice and every once in a while i like to see a vid posted of some guy who ground his ass down to the bone....you know...as an example of not what to do...lol. seriously tho....do what you like. just as long as it doesn't endanger others. if it is done right, it can be a pleasure to watch. if it is not done right and the stunter hurts himself....well, then it becomes a comedy, imho, if it only involves the stunter.

there is also another reason why stunters are frowned upon by some riders. every once in a while you will run into people who will bitch about stunting on a jealous level. as in, "it just upsets me so to see someone beat such a beautiful bike". in my opinion, those ones can be ignored. often they make me think that it goes beyond the bike and is just pure jealousy that they themselves can't do it...or can't afford the bike it is being done on.

just be warned of one thing though......admission to being a stunter will effect how responsible riders do respond to you. it might determine who will ask you to ride with them and who won't. not everyone feels comfortable riding with an adreneline junkie. and if you happen to make a post how you went down on your bike...no matter what the reason....there is always that knowledge that you are a stunter. it can mean the difference between, "sorry to hear that" and "oh well...".

I agree with CP. My issue is the bad rep toward all riders and safety, however I do enjoy watching it. Kat rider is not a stunt club, but I view it as a forum for motorcycle enthusiasts. There are obviously many different types of riders and interests here. What's the problem with posting stunt videos here?

i dont care if your out stunting but when you do it on a public road or in traffic i have a problem. the same as i have a problem with people speeding in school zones and stuff like that. put your own life at risk all you want i dont care. but when you put people around in at risk then its a problem.

i don't believe there ever was a problem with it, was there? the only problem i ever noticed was when the occassional newbie signed up and started asking how to wheelie and all that stuff......then he just gets a good bashing and sent on his way...lol. as for videos....i think we have all enjoyed seeing some tard wreck his new bike cuz he was being stupid.

makes me smile every time i see some kid go out and buy a brand new gixxer or something, then go out and try to impress his friend with a wheelie only to wreck it. knowing he finaced the bike just makes it great.