I have an 01 Katana 750 and I'm thinking about going from my stock 150/70-17 tire to a 160/60-17. For those who have done this, did it change how the bike rode? Handled? Are there any clearance issues I would run into going from the stock tire to this size?
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you can run a 160/60 on that rim with no problem.-Steve
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when i got my Kat i had a 160 on it and was wondering how the stock size would change the way it handels if i went back to it. now knowing that the 160 makes the bike "lazy" i am definitely going to change it back to the 150. I think that the 160 is for that fat tire look, i don't like the fat tire look, id rather have function over beauty and day
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Originally posted by WildSide View Postwhen i got my Kat i had a 160 on it and was wondering how the stock size would change the way it handels if i went back to it.
When I got the bike back it was like a roller coaster. It "fell" into corners and
felt like it "locked" onto a solid lean angle. The difference was night and day. That tire was a 110 or 120 so keep in mind the difference as a percent of contact patch was big. But man it handled so much sharper..
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Originally posted by Black_peter View PostIt will "slow down" the handling. Dropping the forks even a little will help. The bike will feel "lazy" going into turns.
its not a radical enough change to affect anything so you'd notice much.
if you went from a 150 to a 180, yeah, you'd notice the difference for sure, me, felt the same going a single size up.
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You guys are missing an important aspect for this discusion... and your all right, sorta.
Different tires and brands will have different profiles for the same sizes, much less when changing tire size.
What I mean... Some tires are a flat profile touring oriented tire. That is going to give a "lazy" feel on turn in for the curves. A specific brand for instance... Conti Force tires... very flat profile. Feels great for touring, but it does not have that "rail in the curves" feel to them.
Compare those to the Conti road attacks of the exact same size, and you find there is a huge difference in how the tires feel. The Road Attacks just want to fall into a curve and carve things up.
Going 150-160 probably won't be that much of a difference for the same tires... it really depends on who's riding the bike. If your hard on the curves, near or are dragging a knee... probably could tell a small difference. If your not near that, then ... The small difference between those two sizes are not going to matter much. You still have a long ways to go in riding skill before that should become a major concern.
If you wear a flat spot on the center of any tire... a new tire will have a better profile as well. If for example your not into the curves alot, and the center wears down long before the sides.... you just flatened the profile of the tires... and a new one, of the same brand and size will have a different feel to them, being more wanting to drop into the curves.
Also keep in mind that different brands are actually different actual sizes other than what the "stamped size" on the side of the tire is. Some or a little wider, some are a little narrower. This also can make a difference when switching tires... if you happen to go from a set that is "wider" to a set that is "narrower"... in addition to changing size.
I would say if... you were to ride a specific brand tire that is less than 50 miles on it for 100 miles, then switch to another tire 1 size larger... less than 50 miles on it of the same brand.... You probably would not notice a huge difference, if the switch maintaned the proper profile.
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Modified Swingarm, 5.5 GSXR Rear with 180/55 and 520 Chain, 750 to 600 Tail conversion, more to come. Long Term Project build thread http://katriders.com/vb/showthread.php?t=96736
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+1 with Krey...I went to a 160, but it was also a pilot power with a serious radius on the tire...if anything, mine got better...
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Originally posted by teddy View Post+1 with Krey...I went to a 160, but it was also a pilot power with a serious radius on the tire...if anything, mine got better...Last edited by waveman; 03-18-2010, 05:02 PM.
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Originally posted by Kat96 View PostGood write up. Still carving up my Metzeler Z6,s 150/70 rear and 120/70 front. Sticky and solid........Can a pre handle 160/60 rear?
Post kat 4.5 will bolt right in.
Other 4.5" rims can be made to work with some minor mods.
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Originally posted by Kreylyn View PostMost tires will be a bit out of profile with a 160 on the pre 3.5" rim. I recomend sticking with 150 as the largest, or doing a rim swap to fit a larger tire.
Post kat 4.5 will bolt right in.
Other 4.5" rims can be made to work with some minor mods.
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Originally posted by Kreylyn View PostYou guys are missing an important aspect for this discusion... and your all right, sorta.
Different tires and brands will have different profiles for the same sizes, much less when changing tire size.
What I mean... Some tires are a flat profile touring oriented tire. That is going to give a "lazy" feel on turn in for the curves. A specific brand for instance... Conti Force tires... very flat profile. Feels great for touring, but it does not have that "rail in the curves" feel to them.
Compare those to the Conti road attacks of the exact same size, and you find there is a huge difference in how the tires feel. The Road Attacks just want to fall into a curve and carve things up.
Going 150-160 probably won't be that much of a difference for the same tires... it really depends on who's riding the bike. If your hard on the curves, near or are dragging a knee... probably could tell a small difference. If your not near that, then ... The small difference between those two sizes are not going to matter much. You still have a long ways to go in riding skill before that should become a major concern.
If you wear a flat spot on the center of any tire... a new tire will have a better profile as well. If for example your not into the curves alot, and the center wears down long before the sides.... you just flatened the profile of the tires... and a new one, of the same brand and size will have a different feel to them, being more wanting to drop into the curves.
Also keep in mind that different brands are actually different actual sizes other than what the "stamped size" on the side of the tire is. Some or a little wider, some are a little narrower. This also can make a difference when switching tires... if you happen to go from a set that is "wider" to a set that is "narrower"... in addition to changing size.
I would say if... you were to ride a specific brand tire that is less than 50 miles on it for 100 miles, then switch to another tire 1 size larger... less than 50 miles on it of the same brand.... You probably would not notice a huge difference, if the switch maintaned the proper profile.
Krey
another +1.. i myself went from a pilot power 150 to a pilot power 160.. noticed no change.
now if i'd gone from a battleaxe to a pilot power, i'm SURE i'd notice a difference.
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now with this all said, what would be a good tire to learn to get the knee down? I really would like to learn this to make the rides a lil more fun. Don't get me wrong, I have a blast just riding into work and its mostly straight. Keep in mind that i am a newbe and have about 1000 mile under my belt. I am thinking of going with a Bridgestone Battlax BT-021 for the rear and a Bridgestone Battlax BT-016 for the front. Any help would be a great help...pssst Krey, this is where you chime in. LOL
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