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    Bandit 1200 engine question

    Ok, So i'm thinking of getting a 1200 motor and installing it in the spring, But reading up on the Bandit It is a 5 speed trans instead of 6.. Also the top speed (for the same year as my 00 kat 750) is only about 5 mph more.. So beside a little more oomph and low end grunt. What is the benefit of installing the Bandit engine??
    2001 Kawasaki zx1100

    2000 Kat 750, in 600 Yellow. (GONE but not forgotten)

    Bike pics link: http://s422.photobucket.com/albums/pp310/smitty600/
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    Not just a "bit more oomph." It's a LOT.

    Top end isn't all that crazy, but it wastes no time getting there. It pulls like crazy, so why not?

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    • #3
      if you are concerned with top speed ( how often to you go there?) you could change sprocket sizing but that will also change the bottom end
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      • #4
        Well, im not really concerned with top speed, but I figured a bigger engine should go faster... lol, I really don't do top speed runs, but once in a blue moon. but I need a little better acceleration. Thats why im thinking 1200 engine, keep good gas mileage and still get up to speed faster..

        Now i know i can search the install when it comes time, but besides the carbs, cooler and header, do I need anything else?
        2001 Kawasaki zx1100

        2000 Kat 750, in 600 Yellow. (GONE but not forgotten)

        Bike pics link: http://s422.photobucket.com/albums/pp310/smitty600/

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        • #5
          You will need to do something about aspiration. The Bandit's airbox doesn't fit in the Kat's frame and the boots from the Kat's airbox are too small for the Bandit's carbs. Many have used K&N pods with success. I'd planned on taking the boots out of the Bandit's airbox and put them into the Kat's airbox.

          You don't necessarily need an oil cooler. The dimensions of the Bandit's oil cooler are very different than the Kat's. In all but stop and go traffic, the Kat's cooler will be sufficient.

          You might consider getting all the parts for a Bandit hydraulic clutch. The speedo sensor is in the right place for the Bandit's rotor and it is easily modified to accept a shifter stud. The Katana's sprocket cover will fit the Bandit motor, but its speedo sensor will be in the wrong spot.

          I didn't complete my swap, but I did a lot of research while breaking apart my donor Bandit. There are several guys that have done it and lots have posted threads about it.

          HemiKat is in the beginning stages of swapping (formerly) my B12 into his bike. Looking for a thread to pop up any day. :

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SKNL2 View Post
            HemiKat is in the beginning stages of swapping (formerly) my B12 into his bike. Looking for a thread to pop up any day. :
            I got the garage cleaned out this weekend. The mayhem begins next!
            Originally posted by arsenic
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            • #7
              Awesome, let me (us) know how it goes... Mine is still thought in process.. I haven't made up my mind yet..
              2001 Kawasaki zx1100

              2000 Kat 750, in 600 Yellow. (GONE but not forgotten)

              Bike pics link: http://s422.photobucket.com/albums/pp310/smitty600/

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by smitty600 View Post
                  Ok, So i'm thinking of getting a 1200 motor and installing it in the spring, But reading up on the Bandit It is a 5 speed trans instead of 6.. Also the top speed (for the same year as my 00 kat 750) is only about 5 mph more.. So beside a little more oomph and low end grunt. What is the benefit of installing the Bandit engine??
                  20+ additional ft/lbs of torque ain't nothin to sneeze at . Also , the B12 cruises at 5k RPMS' @ 90mph in 5th gear , whereas the Kat in 6th is at like ...... 8k-ish ? Not that I've been looking into it for a few years or anything .
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                  • #10
                    I secretly pray that my 600 engine will barf one day while starrting so I can search around for a cheap used bandit motor.



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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LAsunbird86 View Post
                      I secretly pray that my 600 engine will barf one day while starrting so I can search around for a cheap used bandit motor.

                      If only the top end barfs, I'll take the bottom end off your hands.

                      Wouldn't it make more sense to look for a bandit motor BEFORE your engine chucks a rod? That way you can make some of the $ back......
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by loudnlow7484 View Post
                        If only the top end barfs, I'll take the bottom end off your hands.

                        Wouldn't it make more sense to look for a bandit motor BEFORE your engine chucks a rod? That way you can make some of the $ back......
                        Makes sense.... I have a little knock sound in mine, thats why im thinkin b12.. Think a busa engine will fit?? with a tight budget???
                        2001 Kawasaki zx1100

                        2000 Kat 750, in 600 Yellow. (GONE but not forgotten)

                        Bike pics link: http://s422.photobucket.com/albums/pp310/smitty600/

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by smitty600 View Post
                          Think a busa engine will fit?? with a tight budget???

                          anything will fit if you have enough grinding wheels and welding filler rods. Will it be cheap? doubtful.

                          Having owned a B12 and a 600 Kat, the difference is WAY more than top speed. The bandit would stomp the 600 kat in pretty much every situation. That thing was a hoot. Sure, my ZX10R would outrun it....but It won't rip the front wheel up at 2500 rpm like the bandit would.

                          Don't worry about the 5 speed thing....the B12 would do just fine with a 3 speed.

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                          • #14
                            Many will tell you that the B12 motor isn't particularly great... but it DOES have the ability to be extensively tuned as well. The 1127 motor was the "fast one."
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by steves View Post
                              Many will tell you that the B12 motor isn't particularly great... but it DOES have the ability to be extensively tuned as well. The 1127 motor was the "fast one."
                              B12 head flows more CC's and has more potential than the 1127.
                              Originally posted by arsenic
                              93 octane fuel and K&N pod filters rock.

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