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imfallen_angel
08-25-2008, 09:16 AM
I have an 1100F 1988... chain and sprockets needs changing.. just found out how:

1) hard a 532 chain is to find
2) how much more expensive it is

I did a search in here and online and eBay and I keep seeing mentions about conversion kits, but I've yet to find a place that actually sell them

I'd like to go to a 530, and while I saw the mentions that a 530 should run on the 532 sprockets, it's mentioning added wear on the chain.

Now, I'm not a heavy user of the bike, I don't abuse it, nor hard on it (I go to work with it and the occasional drive around) and I don't push her at all.

So the question is, where can I find these parts/kits?

Mojoe
08-25-2008, 11:22 AM
as per our conversation in PM, I suggest this conversion kit. it is an o-ring chain and keeps stock gearing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suzuki-GSX-1100F-1100-Katana-Chain-Sprocket-Set-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247 QQcategoryZ35600QQihZ010QQitemZ200244176907QQrdZ1Q QsspagenameZWD1V

there are other conversion kits by RK, which is a better quality, but they change your gearing quite a bit. if you go with them, you can never go back to stock cuz your chain will be wayyyy too short. with this kit, you can run that chain for a couple of seasons, then when a new chain is needed, just pick up a quality chain the right length. you can also get a new chain BEFORE this on is finished, then cut it shorter to experiment with other gearing.

if you do go with an RK kit, you need to know how the gearing performs. I did one of these in the past, and was disappointed with the gearing.

imfallen_angel
08-25-2008, 12:23 PM
The one you posted mentions 1989-1993 models.

My bike being a 1988, will it fit?

Mojoe
08-25-2008, 12:25 PM
yup.....not a problem. they just didn't list the 88 cuz the gearing is different. if they listed it as 88-93, then the 88 owners would holler about the gearing not being the same. it is the same engine, and the same rear wheel, so it has to fit.

imfallen_angel
08-25-2008, 12:52 PM
I'd say that the one concern would be the price... very low, but what's the quality of the parts?

I gather from your message that you've tried them already?


By the way, where can I find the RK kit?

Mojoe
08-25-2008, 01:20 PM
there is an RK kit as well. just found it on Ebay. the ones on bikebandit are the wrong gearing...or non-stock gearing. this one on ebay is the 15/52 stock gearing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/89-93-Suzuki-Katana-1100-530-conv-chain-sprocket-kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247 QQcategoryZ35600QQihZ022QQitemZ350055145948QQrdZ1Q QsspagenameZWD1V

KYOTE1
08-25-2008, 03:51 PM
yup.....not a problem. they just didn't list the 88 cuz the gearing is different. if they listed it as 88-93, then the 88 owners would holler about the gearing not being the same. it is the same engine, and the same rear wheel, so it has to fit.


what is the differance in the gearing?

Mojoe
08-25-2008, 04:50 PM
what is the differance in the gearing?

I believe the 88 has a 48t rear sprocket, but don't quote me on that.

tone
08-25-2008, 06:01 PM
Here i the uk instead of buying an overpriced conversion kit we just buy gsxr sprockets with the correct number of teeth & a chain to suit, doing it this way means that you can buy the 3 different parts from 3 different suppliers if need be & reduce the price considerably :smt002

imfallen_angel
08-26-2008, 08:01 AM
Sounds good. I think the main concern is that the sprockets actually fit.

You'd think that manufacturers would make it easier to know what sprockets can fit which models.

So from what I read here and seen online, the 88 to 93 uses the same sprockets for both the back wheel sprockets and front sprockets, and that includes both the GSX 1100F and GSX 1100R...

Someone please correct me if this is not correct.

danp2630
08-26-2008, 08:42 AM
according to the manual on page 9
http://webpages.charter.net/danp2630/1100%20Katana%20FSM%20complete.pdf

the 1988 had a 15/52 gear setup

bdje
08-26-2008, 09:23 AM
I just got done converting mine using the RK conversion kit after finding out the stock 532 chain from the dealer was $290!!! I bought the whole kit for less than $200 and that included an extra front sprocket which was 14T rather than the stock 15T. Bottom end is better and I haven't found the change in the top yet since the top was already much higher than I plan to reach for!! I may go to a 13T but I am going to wait until I re-jet and do the exhaust.

The conversion is pretty easy and you'll be happy in the long run that you did it!!

imfallen_angel
08-26-2008, 02:36 PM
At the risk of sounding stupid here...

Is there a difference between just getting sprockets (and the proper chain) that will fit your bike and a "conversion kit"?

vcrmax
08-26-2008, 04:17 PM
At the risk of sounding stupid here...

Is there a difference between just getting sprockets (and the proper chain) that will fit your bike and a "conversion kit"?

The Big kat uses a 532 chain which is very rare and very expensive so most people convert them to the 530 chain and sprockets.

bouldermarkb
05-02-2012, 04:59 PM
I bought separate components for this and found them to be wonderful. What surprised me most was the decrease in vibration! I used a 14 tooth front, and a 48 tooth rear. Took 1 link out of the 120 link chain for max adjustment, and thereby took about 1.25" out of the wheelbase in the process. This little bit makes a big difference in cornering feel. Wish I had done this when I bought my 1st 1100 in '89. Now on my second, a '92, having had to sell my '89 (thanks, ex-wife!). I also find Dunlops to be more to my liking than OEM and Metzlers. Just put on some new ones that seem to have a rounder profile than Metzlers (Just went thru 2 pairs of them, with scalloping on the front and premature flattening of the rear.).

05RedKat600
05-02-2012, 05:06 PM
I bought separate components for this and found them to be wonderful. What surprised me most was the decrease in vibration! I used a 14 tooth front, and a 48 tooth rear. Took 1 link out of the 120 link chain for max adjustment, and thereby took about 1.25" out of the wheelbase in the process. This little bit makes a big difference in cornering feel. Wish I had done this when I bought my 1st 1100 in '89. Now on my second, a '92, having had to sell my '89 (thanks, ex-wife!). I also find Dunlops to be more to my liking than OEM and Metzlers. Just put on some new ones that seem to have a rounder profile than Metzlers (Just went thru 2 pairs of them, with scalloping on the front and premature flattening of the rear.).

Tool 1 link out and lost 1.25"? How is this possible? Remember, the chain links overlap, and also the chain is doubled around. Therefor you lost about .5 - .75 in wheelbase.

TRPUT
05-02-2012, 05:19 PM
I'm guessing probably 2 links ... or some multiple of 2.8-[

05RedKat600
05-02-2012, 05:25 PM
I'm guessing probably 2 links ... or some multiple of 2.8-[

HA! I just assumed 118 instead of 120 even though I said one link. It's one piece in your hand but you're right, two links.

TRPUT
05-02-2012, 05:54 PM
:bigthumb 2 links still doesn't = 1.25" in wheel base though. With doubling-up, angles and distance around sprockets, the change in wheel base is probably about 1/3 the actual shortening in chain length. 1.25cm might make sense??? Unless the 120 chain is already shorter than stock to accommodate the smaller sprockets??

Kreylyn
05-02-2012, 06:32 PM
All of the 5 series chains are 5/8" between rollers or sprocket teeth. The difference between 520, 525, and 530 is simply width.

So if you take out 4 links you shorten things by 1 1/4".... I'd be pretty surpised that you can shorten it that much with out swingrm mods, but... eh...

Krey

BIG-KO
05-05-2012, 09:43 PM
I believe the 88 has a 48t rear sprocket, but don't quote me on that.

Mojoe on my 88 1100 I replaced the stock 532 chain/sprockets this past winter. I bought a kit listed for 89-93. My kit came with 15/52 gearing which is what the bike had, but the new kit was a 122 link chain. My orig chain was a 118 link. From all the pics I have seen here of other guy's KAT1100's the '88 swingarm sure looks different at the ends where the adjuster is. Perhaps the '88 really does have a shorter swingarm which makes the kit listing to fit '89-93. Anyhow, just cut the chain down to the proper length and good to go.

DClark
05-05-2012, 10:32 PM
What surprised me most was the decrease in vibration! I used a 14 tooth front, and a 48 tooth rear. .

I ran that combo for about five years with no problems. However, I have heard that you should not have both sprockets have even number teeth as it can result in uneven wear.
I bought the pricey RK chain/sprocket kit, very nice quality stuff.

Kreylyn
05-06-2012, 06:50 AM
I ran that combo for about five years with no problems. However, I have heard that you should not have both sprockets have even number teeth as it can result in uneven wear.
I bought the pricey RK chain/sprocket kit, very nice quality stuff.

Yep... people say alot of things, and then we repeat them. Eventually they become the norm... yet is it true?

Anyone got any real info on that?

Krey

05RedKat600
05-06-2012, 09:49 AM
Doesn't matter even or odd number of teeth, sprocket is a sprocket LOL! I would LOVE to hear an explanantion of this one.

Kreylyn
05-06-2012, 10:25 AM
Doesn't matter even or odd number of teeth, sprocket is a sprocket LOL! I would LOVE to hear an explanantion of this one.


Oh, I know the "explination" part... someone does the math and throws out that fact that the same roller hits the same spot on the sprocket significantly less on odd number sprockets than evens.... and this is supposed to "even" out the wear over all.

That's the thought behind it... does it actually make a difference... :smt102 That's the info I want to see. Actuall tests or verified information. Not just some math formula and someone's hypothesis about it.

Krey

05RedKat600
05-06-2012, 10:28 AM
Oh, I know the "explination" part... someone does the math and throws out that fact that the same roller hits the same spot on the sprocket significantly less on odd number sprockets than evens.... and this is supposed to "even" out the wear over all.

That's the thought behind it... does it actually make a difference... :smt102 That's the info I want to see. Actuall tests or verified information. Not just some math formula and someone's hypothesis about it.

Krey

Same roller hits the same spot....Ok, it's not like there's 100 other rollers that hit the sprocket in that spot, HAHA! If you keep it clean and lubed, all this theory becomes a moot point. :bigthumb

DClark
05-06-2012, 08:03 PM
Can you name a motorcycle that comes with both sprockets have even number of teeth?

thebird_19
05-06-2012, 08:53 PM
01 cbr 600f4i. 16/46. The F4 had 16/45

Kreylyn
05-07-2012, 06:38 AM
Some 600 pres had 14/46 sprockets OEM.

But even if I wasn't off the top of my head able to state that, it really wouldn't address the topic at all with anything remotely like ... proof.

Krey