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TheWrightKat
01-26-2007, 01:04 PM
I have narrowed my choices down to 3 cans. These are Pipecity.com prices shipping is $0 for anything over $200.


D&D Black Satin Slip-on for $253

Two Bros C2 Alum Slip-On for $334

Scorpion Stainless Slip On for $286


I like the sound of the D&D and Two Bros the most. The Scorpion sounds ok.

Opinions and pros & cons of each welcome.

KatanaSoldier
01-26-2007, 01:57 PM
I love the sound of my D & D. Too loud for some though.

IForgotMyUserName2
01-26-2007, 02:35 PM
my friend has a d&d on his 01 R6 and its loud. if you ride with anyone you care about that might be behind you i would go with something a little softer lol. on the other hand, if you hate the person behind, D&D all the way.

KatanaSoldier
01-26-2007, 02:57 PM
They are fine with ear plugs.

JaredL
01-26-2007, 04:26 PM
Louder is better in my book

Jax
01-26-2007, 07:05 PM
Depends what you are looking for...everyone agrees Loud go with D&D but if the cops in your area are on the lookout for bikers you just put yourself on their list...there is a thread, do a search, where someone has a link with different sounds the different exhaust make...they are all MP3 format so you can hear what sound the pipe will put out...

SEQX34
01-26-2007, 07:06 PM
Scorpion! = NO repacking needed EVER! and..... if you crash and ruin the pipes, send them the damaged one and you can get a
NEW pipe for 1/2 the price.

Scorpion Exhaust Slip-on System with Oval Carbon Fiber, or Stainless Canister!

Canisters Sleeves Available:

Carbon Fiber

Stainless

Fuel Remapping not required!

Includes everything to install:

Oval Carbon Fiber, or Stainless Canister

Stainless Steel S-bend

Mounting Hardware

For over a decade Scorpion Exhausts have been recognized and sought after by leading tuning specialists all over the world. Our innovative approach to design, use of high specification materials and state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities ensure a truly world class product that is guaranteed.

Weighs less than 3 lbs for most applications!

No Repacking EVER! Single-strand stainless steel packing with a ceramic mesh "sock" cover.

Scorpion Exhaust Lifetime Warranty - Scorpion Exhausts are guaranteed against manufacturing defects for the period of original ownership (see warranty card for details).

Impact Replacement Program - Scorpion allows one claim during ownership of the product to replace a significantly damaged exhaust at a reduced price (usually 50% of retail-see warranty card for details).

KatanaSoldier
01-26-2007, 09:10 PM
Scorpion! = NO repacking needed EVER! and..... if you crash and ruin the pipes, send them the damaged one and you can get a
NEW pipe for 1/2 the price.

Scorpion Exhaust Slip-on System with Oval Carbon Fiber, or Stainless Canister!

Canisters Sleeves Available:

Carbon Fiber

Stainless

Fuel Remapping not required!

Includes everything to install:

Oval Carbon Fiber, or Stainless Canister

Stainless Steel S-bend

Mounting Hardware

For over a decade Scorpion Exhausts have been recognized and sought after by leading tuning specialists all over the world. Our innovative approach to design, use of high specification materials and state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities ensure a truly world class product that is guaranteed.

Weighs less than 3 lbs for most applications!

No Repacking EVER! Single-strand stainless steel packing with a ceramic mesh "sock" cover.

Scorpion Exhaust Lifetime Warranty - Scorpion Exhausts are guaranteed against manufacturing defects for the period of original ownership (see warranty card for details).

Impact Replacement Program - Scorpion allows one claim during ownership of the product to replace a significantly damaged exhaust at a reduced price (usually 50% of retail-see warranty card for details).


News to me. No repacking woud be very nice and what a way to stand behind a product with that warranty. Smart marketing.

gsxrluver
01-27-2007, 02:11 PM
id stay away from D and D,i know too many people getting rid of them,they dont sound good and are way too loud.....

KatanaSoldier
01-27-2007, 02:57 PM
I like mine loud. I will say as I do to everyone who is interested in a D & D. If you don't like your exhaust loud and rude, don't get the D & D!

The CyberPoet
01-27-2007, 02:59 PM
Scorpion claims a 5 HP improvement on the Kats. I've never (ever) seen a significant improvement (over 1 HP) on a 98+ Kat engine from just an aftermarket muffler, and definitely not 5 HP.

I also can't seem to find any info saying their bike mufflers never need repacking at the manufacturer's site... So I sent the manufacturer a query about that just now.

Cheers,
=-= The CyberPoet

TheWrightKat
01-28-2007, 07:48 AM
so far looks like the Scorpion is what I'll get. If I do get a Scorpion though it will be kind of funny because I made the comment in the Cycle Gear shop about getting one to go along with my Scorpion lid. :lol:

Just wish I could afford the carbon because I think tho black would look nice on my Kat.

KatanaBadass
01-28-2007, 08:14 AM
I plan on getting the Scorpion as well, are you doing the jets?

TheWrightKat
01-28-2007, 08:46 AM
jets and K&N filter are both down the road a bit yet

The CyberPoet
01-28-2007, 11:34 AM
Hey, if I pay for the "before" dyno, will you pay for the after "dyno" to establish factually, what, if any difference their can makes on your bike?

Cheers,
=-= The CyberPoet

TheWrightKat
01-29-2007, 07:05 AM
I'm game Marc, what does a "dyno" run normally cost?

The CyberPoet
01-29-2007, 07:08 AM
$25 - $30 at most shops if they don't do anything but run the dyno run. Gotta use the phone to shop around for pricing, and you must use exactly the same dyno both times to get an accurate comparison.

It'll also let you know if the exhaust made your bike suddenly run too lean, because most dyno's have an exhaust sniffer on them.

Cheers,
=-= The CyberPoet

TheWrightKat
01-29-2007, 07:20 AM
sounds great you find a shop and as soon as I finally get the can I'll come up and we'll do it. BTW how long does it take to change a can? it doesn't look like it's more than a few bolts to me. I figure it can't take too long except possibly cool down time if the bikes been running.

The CyberPoet
01-29-2007, 07:24 AM
It takes under 15 minutes if the exhaust is cool. The hardest part is getting the old one apart without damaging the midpipe-to-collector gasket (replacement gasket is around $22 unless it comes with the muffler).

I figured you'd want to find a place close to you -- I'd just paypal you the $$ for the first run. If you actually want to come to my place to do it, that's fine -- I just figured I'd save you the several hours of back-n-forth travel.

Cheers,
=-= The CyberPoet

TheWrightKat
01-29-2007, 07:35 AM
Ok I'll check around here for a shop with a dyno. I'm sure there has to be one.