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count_filth's_katana
10-06-2009, 05:49 PM
I was taking a short ride. Everything seamed just fine until the ride back home. My bike felt really groggy and difficult to turn. I checked my tires and my rear tire and I was realy low. My tires have never gotten that low before. So I come home, put it on the center stand and found a screw in my ALMOST NEW tire! Its a 12k mile tire and only has 2000 on it. I called the shop and asked for an opinion. They said that can patch it, and don't advise riding over 80. I thought patching a bike tire was never recommended? The puncture was dead center. Should I patch it?

Kreylyn
10-06-2009, 05:53 PM
My vote is replace it... :smt102

Krey

katman05
10-06-2009, 06:02 PM
Get a new one, I wouldn't ride around with a plug or a patch on a motorcycle tire.
Just my 2 cents.

jbo197
10-06-2009, 06:09 PM
Never worth the risk of your life .......

Kano1017
10-06-2009, 07:03 PM
Replace it, why risk it

rexazz2
10-06-2009, 07:09 PM
this type of combination patch/plug is the only type of repair I would concider and only by a tire shop

flame on :tearslol

katana_ron
10-06-2009, 07:41 PM
Do not patch it. I have had a tire loose air at 80 on the freeway, one of the biggest butt pucker moments in my life. Try getting from the Diamond lane to the shoulder with 4 lanes of traffic in between and the rear of the bike dancing like a 18 year old on extacy.

Not worth it......

LAsunbird86
10-06-2009, 07:50 PM
just put a shinko on until you can replace it with something you like more. You may even come to like the shinko, and have a lifetime of saving $$ on tires!!

acraze
10-06-2009, 08:03 PM
Although I plug mine I highly suggest replacing ughh so much $

SKNL2
10-06-2009, 08:17 PM
If the screw was in the center of the tread, plug it. :dunno:

I know, I know...."it's your life and yadda yadda."

I have said this before, but I plugged a nearly new Pilot Power rear that had a hole big enough to require 3 rope-type plugs. Yes...THREE. I rode that tire from nipples to wear bars with those plugs in it. I rode it without speed limits, I rode it two up, I rode it on an end-to-end-back-to-end Blue Ridge Parkway tour, I rode it at Deal's Gap....all without issue.

If it were the front, I would replace it and fast. Center of the rear, you will be fine plugging or patching it. Hell, if you end up buying a new one, send the holy one to me. I'll plug it and ride it. No sweat. :bigthumb:

BigDub
10-06-2009, 08:43 PM
Have a tube put in it!

I did this just last month with a rear Diablo Strata long life tire. Works great for about half the price of a replacement. Then if that one gets a hole in it, deflate, derim, patch the tube, then reinstall.

It's a pain in the butt for 75$ in savings. but, it was my 75$ so I did it.

:smt102I almost put a plug in it bc I've ridden so many plugs on cars before without issue, but everone just kept telling me no no no don't plug it. Mostly shop owners who make more money replacing or de/rerimming the tires.

??????

justinboyce
10-06-2009, 09:15 PM
If it was me, I would fix it and not think twice, but with that in mind I am not an aggressive rider and rarley get over 80 mph anyway. If your an aggressive rider just replace it so you won't have to worry about it.

scottynoface
10-06-2009, 09:22 PM
Imagine yourself at a 55 degree lean angle at 70mph. Now imagine your tire shredding at that moment...

LAsunbird86
10-06-2009, 10:34 PM
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MrSquidward
10-06-2009, 11:25 PM
Imagine yourself at a 55 degree lean angle at 70mph. Now imagine your tire shredding at that moment...

Funny you should mention that, I dumped a silver 636 just like the one in your sig because of tire failure several years ago. Happened while cornering through a right-hander on a two lane back road, though only at about 35 - 40 mph. A chunk of metal punctured the rear and caused a rapid deflation. The back end slid out and across the paint, the deflated tire then grabbed and chucked me high-side. Full gear left me with no injuries, but had there been someone in the oncoming lane, well....

To the o/p, the point of this is that my occurrence, though freakish, was involuntary. Could have happened to anyone. So there's definitely no need to stack the deck against yourself. I vote for replacing the tire.

rockin6d
10-06-2009, 11:32 PM
there is a plug that has an oversize head that goes inside the tire. if you can find someone with them that is the reccomended way to plug a bike tire. Me, on my last new tire that picked up a nail I plugged then patched and bought a tube from the local bike dealer that is supposed to run inside a tubless tyre without heating up, yup i did all three! ran the tyre for about 8000 more miles without incident. bottom line though is it's your azz, if you don't feel comfortable don't do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigFish
10-06-2009, 11:56 PM
If you plug it you'll also throw off the balance of the tire a small amount. I am not sure if that will affect anything at low speeds. That said I ran over a glass bottle in my SUV years ago and plugged a hole that would have fit my thumb. 30k miles later I replaced all 4 tires without incident.

So, if you're feeling lucky ride without a helmet or gear and plug the tire. I have always plugged car tires, but wouldn't do it on a motorcycle except to get home after a puncture.

BobCarter
10-07-2009, 12:07 AM
I had my rear tire plugged about 2k ago and haven't thought twice. It was dead center.

scottynoface
10-07-2009, 12:47 AM
Funny you should mention that, I dumped a silver 636 just like the one in your sig because of tire failure several years ago. Happened while cornering through a right-hander on a two lane back road, though only at about 35 - 40 mph. A chunk of metal punctured the rear and caused a rapid deflation. The back end slid out and across the paint, the deflated tire then grabbed and chucked me high-side. Full gear left me with no injuries, but had there been someone in the oncoming lane, well....

To the o/p, the point of this is that my occurrence, though freakish, was involuntary. Could have happened to anyone. So there's definitely no need to stack the deck against yourself. I vote for replacing the tire.

Oh god I hope it wasn't mine...:lol:

thetable
10-07-2009, 08:27 AM
I'll go with Cyber's typical response to the same question. Plug the tire, order a new tire, then sell the used one on Ebay with full disclosure about it being plugged.

MrSquidward
10-07-2009, 08:48 AM
Oh god I hope it wasn't mine...:lol:

Lol. Couldn't be, I bought it back from the insurance and parted it out. :D

Enjay386
10-09-2009, 01:13 AM
This just sucks, it's definitely a loss, but I would replace it.

DreKat
10-09-2009, 02:09 PM
If the screw was in the center of the tread, plug it. :dunno::

:iagree:

mezalaja
10-09-2009, 02:48 PM
Same thing happened to me on my current set of tires. My tire was less than a week old and I pick up a screw,... I couldn't afford a new one at the time so I asked the bike shop to plug it. that was about 15,000 km ago. I haven't had a problem yet but I am planning to replace the tires soon,... before it gets down to the wear bars. I guess it would also depend on how agressive a rider you are. I'm pretty tame so I figured I'd be okay for a little while.

BigFish
10-09-2009, 03:02 PM
BTW: If it's the front tire don't patch it long term. A rear wheel blow out is usually something that can be recovered from without dropping the bike. It's my understanding that this is not so true with the front.

count_filth's_katana
10-09-2009, 03:44 PM
Thanks guys. I'll go with Cyber's typical response to the same question. Plug the tire, order a new tire, then sell the used one on Ebay with full disclosure about it being plugged.

This sounds the most reasonalbe, I think ill do this.

strn365
10-09-2009, 04:01 PM
Remember you only have 2 tires sitting between you and the pavement. Lose one at speed your likely to have a meeting with that ruff black stuff. Its like flying a plane you have a known problem sometime you dont get the option to pull over and check. Gravity works 100% of the time.

BigDub
10-09-2009, 06:42 PM
:dito:


I'll go with Cyber's typical response to the same question. Plug the tire, order a new tire, then sell the used one on Ebay with full disclosure about it being plugged.


:dito:

I especially :dito: the part about full disclosure bc ya never know when you need to sell something again and to not do it would just blow.

96katana96
10-10-2009, 02:05 PM
Do not patch it. I have had a tire loose air at 80 on the freeway, one of the biggest butt pucker moments in my life. Try getting from the Diamond lane to the shoulder with 4 lanes of traffic in between and the rear of the bike dancing like a 18 year old on extacy.

Not worth it......


ditto:bigthumb

DoyleDee
10-10-2009, 10:36 PM
I have patched the rear tire with it still on the bike...it was a pia, but I did it- and still rode it with no issues. My vote is to (depending on funds) to replace it--- but it all depends on your riding and funds.
I would patch and feel safer than using a plug- the plug expands the cords apart - the patch doesn't.

zuma
10-10-2009, 11:08 PM
I had a blowout in the front at 80, and a blowout on back at 75. I liked the back blowout better, but didn't drop either bike either time. MD86 (Matt) plugged my back tire at the rally and I made it back to Texas and put 1,000 more miles on it...didn't even think twice...but then again, it was Matt who fixed it...and there's magic in his fingers when he works on bikes, bless him.

md86
10-12-2009, 12:26 AM
MD86 (Matt) plugged my back tire at the rally and I made it back to Texas and put 1,000 more miles on it...didn't even think twice...but then again, it was Matt who fixed it...and there's magic in his fingers when he works on bikes, bless him.
Wasn't me :dunno: . I've NEVER plugged a tire . Had it done for me once or twice . I DO change tires , though . :lol: I "supervised"as your tire was being plugged , though . Just can't remember for sure who did it . Wanting to say it was JayBell for some reason :thinking ....

zuma
10-12-2009, 07:25 AM
Wasn't me :dunno: . I've NEVER plugged a tire . Had it done for me once or twice . I DO change tires , though . :lol: I "supervised"as your tire was being plugged , though . Just can't remember for sure who did it . Wanting to say it was JayBell for some reason :thinking ....


Pacerman...Jack Daniels and I had been visiting as I recall.

andrave
10-12-2009, 05:01 PM
similar thing happened to me but I don't ride on patched or plugged tires. on a bike you only have 2 of em and if youre like me, happen to be leaned over on them a good portion of the time. not an area to try to skimp out on. Patch the old one and sell it on ebay to someone in more dire straights.

SKNL2
10-13-2009, 07:39 AM
I'm leaned over on mine most of the time as well. Just about all of the time. :dunno:

Got a staple in the Gixxer's rear tire. Plugged it. Rode it til it was bald on the sides, replaced.

Send me the tire. I will plug it, ride it til it falls off and love every minute of it. :bigthumb:

Steel belted radials just don't pop like bias-ply tires. If the hole is in the center of the tread of the rear tire, plug it. If the hole is in the front tire (ever and anywhere), replace it.

Tokalosh
10-13-2009, 07:44 AM
If the screw was in the center of the tread, plug it. :dunno:

I know, I know...."it's your life and yadda yadda."

I have said this before, but I plugged a nearly new Pilot Power rear that had a hole big enough to require 3 rope-type plugs. Yes...THREE. I rode that tire from nipples to wear bars with those plugs in it. I rode it without speed limits, I rode it two up, I rode it on an end-to-end-back-to-end , I rode it from London to wales....all without issue.

If it were the front, I would replace it and fast. Center of the rear, you will be fine plugging or patching it. Hell, if you end up buying a new one, send the holy one to me. I'll plug it and ride it. No sweat. :bigthumb:

:dito:

The only time I did not ride it was at track days.

Tok

count_filth's_katana
10-15-2009, 03:37 PM
If any of you guys actually do want the tire, let me know and I'll sell it to you guys for like 50 bucks for you to plug/patch or do whatever you want to it. It's a high mileage tire, so far it has about 2000-3000 miles. I'll put up a pic if you guys want.